Belief in God produces Hell on Earth

[Joelcool7]

Rath said:

Joelcool7 said:

Well for your information I know two friends who are homosexual by choice and not naturally. Both grew up straight and I know they were straight because I was pretty tight with them, they were even more straight then me they had posters all over their walls of half naked chicks and porno's under their beds they were as straight as they come. But both of them were emotional people and had mostly girls as friends. One as a kid was dressed in a dress by his mom and dad because they wanted a girl not a boy. Anyways long story short during their late teen years both claimed to be gay.I also know various Bi-Sexuals.

So having posters on the wall meant that they must be straight right? Ever figure that they quite possibly were gay the entire time and were whats called 'in the closet'? There is significant evidence that at least the primary cause of homosexuality is hormones in the womb. Nature not nurture.

When I refered to the children I wasn't only refering to adoptions but also what the homosexual rights groups are doing in our schools (Here in Canada). Also note that your suicides and such that you talk about are in America and possibly other countries. Here in Canada I have known many homosexuals and bi-sexuals in my schools and they were not bullied. yes people got called a fag but it really had nothing to do with sexual orientation I got called a fag almost daily.

The most recent suicide with the boy who's sex was leaked onto the internet and he was publicly ridiculed. If a sex tape of me doing a girl got leaked onto the internet and everybody made fun of me I'd be pretty depressed too. Thats not so much a homosexual issue as a normal human issue. Think of how many straight people commit suicide, think Columbine for example those were straight boys who were bullied to the point they shot up their school, I know of a suicide in my school district about a kid who was bullied in school but he was straight so it was only a local story it never made the international news but if he was gay I bet it would have because everyone cares when a gay guy dies

In my school I got invited by Catholics none the less to a bi-sexual orgy party. These were catholics which stunned me the most. Fact is Homosexuals where I live get treated like kings, they don't have to listen to laws and what ever they want they just have to campaign a bit and they get it.

I'm pretty darned sure that you'll find homosexuals don't have more in the way of rights than others.

A group of about 60-gay rights activists lined up outside my church calling us hate criminals. It was radiculous they called the Bible hate material. I went outside and offered to take a man to lunch and he freaked calling me a homophobe for believing in the Bible.

No, he called you a homophobe for your opinions on homosexuality. Even if those opinions come from the bible, it isn't the bible the man is attacking.

Civil servennts and some pastors are forced in many parts if not all of Canada to marry gay couples regardless of their religious beliefs. I know a civil servent who actually got fired for refusing and a Pastor who was pretty much forcedto marry a gay couple.

Because to do otherwise would be discrimination no?  What if a pastor refused to marry blacks because it was against his religious beliefs? In my opinion the two situations are not too different, both are discriminating against a person for something they do not have control over.

I got bullied for going to Bible Study at my school and before I graduated it got shut down. Everywhere I go I am ridaculed for my faith and I live in the Bible Belt of Canada. I tried commiting suicide as a kid too from being bullied so I'm sympathetic to those in that situation but here in Canada the homosexual movement imposes its beliefs on others, not the other way around.

Has the homosexual movement ever told you you have to be gay? I severely doubt it. Homosexuals really just want the same rights as everybody else - mainly the right to fall in love, get married and raise a family. I don't see how that is forcing their beliefs on anybody, all it is doing is forcing others not to interfere with their lives.

No the two were not in the closet, I talked with them and both said that they experimented and realized they liked Anal, Among other things. I grew up with both of them and knew them since they were like 3-4 years old and we are still friends today but both of them moved so I don't see them anymore just keep in touch via FaceBook.

The idea that hormones are the cause has some grounds, but in the end it is still a choice being made. I know a guy who was gay and he started dating a lesbian and they fell in love and were going to get married till he got in a car accident and was paralyzed. I also know tons of Bi's if you include aquitances and I highly doubt that that is genetic. In the end its a choice that is made, just like I choose not to have sex before marriage, its a choice does that mean I wouldn't love sex? No it means I choose to abstain. Exact same goes for homosexuality its a choice no one is forcing a man to have sex with another man.

As for gay rights, they have all kinds of rights here in Canada. I was at a gay pride parade in Vancouver and I saw topless lesbians and bottomless gays. You could see everything and they were dancing nude in the street. But guess what Vancouver has a no nudity law where you can't be nude in public. But conveniantly that law doesn't apply to gays I saw a police officer walk by and do absolutly nothing. I have since written letters to the mayor of Vancouver as well as police department. I said if I got enough straight people together could we go dance nude in the streets during a straight pride parade. I got a resounding "No" I would be punished to the full extent of the law. So why can I not go nude down the street but a group of gays can?

Then my University got alot of complaints from gays that wanted their own change rooms and bathrooms. It actually came before the commity and was almost accepted. Luckily it wasn't actually made but it was pretty silly that gays get a special bathroom.

Gays in Canada have tons of rights, they are protected by law and are treated superior. I don't know about most of the US or some other countries but its really hard to sympathize with them when here in Canada they treat everyone else so poorly.

As for the man calling me a homophobe not for my faith but for my views on homosexuality! Thats utter bull crap he didn't know my stance on gay marriage nor did he care. I invited him to coffee and he couldn't stop insulting me and my faith. He decided not to go to coffee with me so me and some other church members went to TIm Hortons and bought coffee and donuts for the group.

I have always been called a homophobe, in highschool people made fun of me all the time for being a Jesus Freak and Homophobe. To be honest I think I was called a homophobe almost as much as a fag. But fact is while I believe homosexuality is a sin I actually was pro-same sex unions and remained friends with two gays and multiple Bi's.

But that didn't keep me from being bullied as a homophobe. Also yes my two gay friends did try to tell me I was gay. Infact alot of the gays at my school told me I was in the closet, so yes infact they did try to impose their sexuality on me and they did with several other people too. I had a friend who went to one of the orgy parties he was straight going in but afterwards said he was Bi and in the future he even claimed to be gay for like a month, then back to Bi.

As for pastors and civil servents being forced to marry homosexuals. You claim it should be the same with a pastor disagreing to marry a black or white couple. Fact is nowhere in the Bible does it say anything against marrying blacks or whites. That would be an opinion unfounded in religious beliefs. There for not protected by the religious rights act which should be adheared too.

So yes I am sick and tired of all these gay rights, I'm sick and tired of gays hitting on me and trying to convince me I'm gay. I'm sick of the groups picketing my church, I'm sick of being called a homophobe every time I have a different view. I'm sick of seeing nude guys and girls out on the streets. I am just plain sick of having homosexuality shoved down my throat. I want to be able to believe as I wish without being insulted and attacked for my beliefs.