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Hephaestos said:

oh and GW has it's own crowd... the one that hates paying monthly fees... so you could almost consider this 2 different genres... they do crossover, but they are still separate crowds.

So you're saying that GW2 and SW:TOR have different audiences because GW2 is cheaper? GW2 is looking to be far more revolutionary then TOR for the MMO genre, so I'd say the two are very much competing.