nordlead said:
makingmusic476 said:
Seece said:
nordlead said:
No publisher really cares what their game sold to the end consumer. They already know exactly how many copies they shipped, and once those discs are out the door the cash is in their hand.
The publishers use the NPD numbers to gauge market interests and market size. Like, do FPSs sell on the DS? Do platformers thrive on the XBox? That sort of thing.
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I think they do, as their next shipments depend on it.
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There's also the issue of possible overstock, resulting in returns. Shipping too many copies of a game can be incredibly dangerous for smaller companies like Atlus and NIS, which is why their titles are often in very short supply soon after release.
nordlead said:
Yes, NPD going private isn't good for anyone, and no it doesn't make VGChartz legit. I really don't know why GAF thinks this is so big for VGC. As soon as I saw the news I was dissapointed for loss of figures, not happy for VGC.
However, to suggest that NPD isn't providing estimates also is wrong. To say that we need to check VGC against NPD is no more valid than to say that we need to check NPD against VGC. Either way, VGC does check their numbers against financial reports and any other source of valid numbers (for example, estimates by the likes of NPD or press releases by publishers).
No, fanboys can't make up crap, because we know that VGC is accurate enough for our discussions. This argument has been posed over at NeoGAF but they don't accept VGC numbers at all, VGC members should accept VGC numbers. If you are on this website and don't accept that VGC is accurate enough that you are going to disregard the numbers, then why did you start posting here in the first place? To claim that software will take this huge hit just because the US top 10 are slightly missing (we will still get rank and some numbers in reports) is sorta silly.
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It's big for VGChartz because this site is now the sole public source of data for the US market. Barring NPD leaks, of course.
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1st quoted response) I agree, I overstated it, but the NPD reports are used for both, but I have a feeling that publishers know a lot more about retail sales than we do even without NPD numbers due to retailer feedback.
2nd quoted response) yay, we are now the sole public source of data in the US. Now instead of being mocked and compared to NPD we will just get mocked and compared to leak numbers that may or may not be real. This won't magically make us the defacto source, as websites could have posted our numbers any time in the past but chose to ignore it because they thought VGC wasn't credible. The more logical reponse is going to be to continue to ignore it rather than to investigate if VGC is really credible or not. We've been seeing steady growth as a source, but I don't think it is going to magically jump just because NPD stopped their minimal public numbers. Is there potential for new members? sure, we will probably pick up a few. Will it be a big impact? your guess is as good as mine.
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But there will inevitably be some people that begin to use VGChartz as a result of this, as it is the next available source after NPD.
Not everyone hates VGChartz. Many people simply use NPD because they either view it as somewhat more reliable than VGChartz, or because it's the only source they know, and these people won't necessarily be averse to using VGChartz in the future. It's not like everybody either uses ioi's numbers or outright disregards them.
