Best Modern President?

[Kasz216]

Rath said:

Kasz216 said:

Rath said:

 

Lincoln kind of deserves it in my opinion. Well depending on your point of view on secession and civil rights anyway. Theres no denying he was a strong president who improved things for the blacks.

Also you have to ask, is not having anything to worry about the cause of Clintons good governance or the effect of it?

I'd say cause honestly... I mean, it's not like he stopped any external threats.  Every president but Obama had a huge external threat to worry about.

Also economically he came in right during the good part of the dot.com bubble.   He didn't have anything to do with the bubble and there was nothing that was going to prevent it's burst.

 

As for Lincoln.  He was important in providing black people with civil rights... while simaltaniously taking rights away from everybody else.   He illegally suspended haibus corpus and constantly imprisoned people for no reason and raided all media that disagreed with him.

Lincoln's main benefit was that the presidents around him were hisorically bad.  If he was put in a non-crisis presidency....

I find it hard to say on Clinton. I feel it was probably a combination of good luck and good diplomacy.

 

Also in a non-crisis situation Lincoln wouldn't have suspended Habeus Corpus and etc.

No.  But he had it in him to do so during times of Crisis.

For a comparison, when Wilson was doing all of his anti-freedom stuff during WW1 and everyone was siding with him because we were in a world war.... who was his biggest critic?

None other then Theodore Roosevelt.