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Metallicube on 11 October 2010
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axt113 said:
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Cheebee said:

So, once again, Wii iz d0med?


Yes, but this time it's Iwata who is saying it . He must have been reading too much Pachter.


not doomed, but concerned, holiday sales will answer the concerns

yes I know he doesn't say it's doomed, that was all part of the "Wii IZ d0med" joke. Personally I am not overly confident about holiday sales (mainly because of Kinect bundles but also Move once it's "holiday advertised" with a bundle), but we'll see. I think a lot depends on whether Donkey King would have an even remotely similar effect on Wii sales that NMSBWii did, everything else is just noise (same as last year, it's not the price cut that did it, it was the game).


Move has flopped, its flagship game is already below 100K in sales and falling

I wouldn't call it successful (or close to) up till now, but I suggest you wait for the holidays, PS3 Move bundles and a heavy holidays advertising campaign by Sony before coming to some longer tem conclusion. Even if you're right, it may be still eating from some of Wii's potential sales at least from the "hardcore" crowd, thus affecting WIi sales even if not successful by itself (some people may not buy Move but decide to put off buying a Wii while waiting for more incentive/games to buy Move). And I expect Kinect to be a success with the casual crowd during the Holidays and eat into Wii holiday sales even more, primarily due to the dance game. It's releasing so close to the holidays that even if it doesn't work as advertised or as people at leats expect it to (which remains to be seen), between the MS campaign and the media hype people won't notice until after the holidays if at all...


No, I think the only reason Wii is having problems is not because of Kinect and Move, both are destined to flop and flop hard, No Nintendo's problem is crappy games

 

Games like Galaxy 2, Other M, Skyward sword should never have been made, these flops have eaten away Nintendo resources without any positive effect on Nintendo momentum.

 

I hope Nintendo finally wises up after skyward sword flops, and finally gives up these foolish games, and gives the market what it wants, old school games, how many old school system sellers could have been released instead of wasting time and resources on games like Galaxy 2, other M and Skyward Sword, it boggles the mind how Nintendo has sabotaged its own momentum

I agree about Galaxy 2 and Other M, but Skyward Sword looks like a great game to me. While I don't think it'll have a HUGE effect on hardware, it'll still help reinvigorate Wii's core base and perhaps draw some of the expanded audience as well, though that depends on how accessible the game is. It appears to be the first Motion Plus game Nintendo is serious about besides WSR.

But yeah, Having Galaxy 2 (a sequel to the 3D Mario series which is nowhere near as popular as 2D Mario), and Metroid Other M (a game that totally alienates the Metroid, and Nintendo audience with its awkward controls and empahsis on cinematics) as the flagship Wii titles in 2010 was a bad move on Nintendo's part. While I love Galaxy 2, I understand at the same time that you cannot sell hardware and keep up momentum with a game like that.

I remember when everyone was celebrating that Nintendo was finally moving back to the core gamer in 2010. But the downside of that is that usually means they are marginilzing themselves and cutting off potential sales to the expanded audience.

It still is funny to me how some people talk about the low Wii sales in 2010 thus far as if they're surprised. All one has to do is look at the strength of the lineup. Now while this year has been good for core gamers, games like Metroid Other M, Monster Hunter Tri, NMH2, and Red Steel 2 are NOT going to sell hardware.

Meanwhile, the HD consoles were getting rapid fire big name third party game week after week. So, considering the circumstances, I am not only not SURPRISED by the HD consoles outselling the Wii in recent months, but I'm actually quite shocked that Wii remained as close as it did this year with such a weak software lineup.