pizzahut451 said:
kowhoho said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
If the story of great flood on mankind for its wickedness is true, why does it matter if the biblical version is wrong or right? The story and the point are true, except for some other details
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Funny that you call manking "wicked" and not the deity who killed everybody.
And it's high;y unlikely that any of those stories are true, as people back then had no ideea how big the world truly was (plus, people from different parts fo the world couldn't communicate how they did today, so it's not as if one could know what was going on around the world to begin with).
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You're doing this again. I said IF the story is true, im not here to argue if the story is true or made up, all i said that if the actual story is true, than it doesnt matter what version of it it.
Oh and...
IF the story is INDEED true, than the deity (God) can not possbily be wicked, because if we assume that the story is true, we assume that God exists, and that means he cant be wicked because he is omnibenevolenct (perfect goodness). ''Wicked'' is like sinfull, and God cant possibly comitt a sin, since he is above it.
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Circular logic again.
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Just for the sake of quoting this very important post I will explain what sapphi means by "circular logic."
By saying that the truth of the story confirms everything you know about god, you are stating that God logically proves himself. "God is because he is." Makes no sense.
It's like saying, "I know God is real and perfect because God says so."
A statement of logic cannot prove itself. Circular.
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What? Is the story is real, than God is real too. And the story itself doesnt confirm everything i know about God. My knowledge of a God unrelated to this story does.
"I know God is real and perfect because God says so."
No, thats not what i meant. I meant, if the story which mentiones God in it IS TRUE , that means that God must be real too. Because if the events in the story are all correct, God sent a big flood on mankind and left only a handfull of men alive. Now ASSUMING this is right, God would have to be real, because he sended a flood on mankind. Whats so hard to understand about this???
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Doesn't change that if he sent the flood, then he is not perfect, and is in fact cruel and evil, just him or you saying he is perfectly good, is not evidence of him actually being good
