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Demotruk said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
Demotruk said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
You saw Samus as a female Duke Nukem, and you accuse Sakamoto of being a sexist? Geeh!! There is truly no logic on the internet. 

You left out the very obvious and relevant MINUS part. Presumably deliberately, since your entire argument with Other M (that it could expand the Metroid fanbase beyond the "hardcore" fans) was proven wrong and you are left with desperate ad hominem.

I wasn't being selective. The minus thing doesn't matter. The point is that Duke Nukem is a compleet non-character, even without the sex. He's fun, but utterly... utterly brainless. Wasn't Samus supposed to be deep and stuff...? She's supposed to be an intelligent, skilled bountyhunter.  

And second:

What... desperate... me...? Nah! I don't derive my self image from games, nor their sales. Do you?

Anyway, i said that Nintendo wanted to expand the Metroid audience, but... that it clearly wasn't off on a good start. You' re being selective there. And seeing at this point: Other M won't reach the 2 million they projected. A bit of a fail for the expanding part. 

Still miffed about the fact  that Nintendo wanted to shed some of the old purist fans...? They wanted to do it. I meerly pointed out the reasoning for it. But cheer up, they are just - or in the process off - failing their goal. Doesn't that make you happy... or you need a man to tell you to feel happy?


Yes you, ad hominem is a mark of desperation in arguments.

Without the comments, Duke Nukem is just a badass. He has no characterization without them, his brainlessness is only expressed with them. Samus is not supposed to be "deep" or intelligent unless the player views her that way. It is up to the player since the player decides the actions of the character, and actions express more of your personality than words alone. If you play a character running from objective to objective quickly, you are playing with a different personality than someone who messes about with the NPC's or someone who approaches situations slowly and cautiously. The game creator can only decide the player's "character" if the player gives them permission, and they very often don't.

Are You sure that 'ad hominem' in your post didn't stand for 'projecting my grieves'? 

Comparitive to the Duke Samus was a deep character, even if she runs around quickly. Even the whole thing with the Baby metroid in SM made her more realistich then him. She had little characterisation before Other M, but it still was far better then the Duke.

Playing styles couldn't be that different. Fighting bosses, going through the big sectors doors and such cap the possible speed to a base level. There is no choice at that point. You are forced to experience a clearly preprogrammed Samus. A base characterisation of Samus in your opinion then. A intelligent, skilled bountyhunter?  

Bold: The gamecreator needs permission from the player? Why would he? The only thing the player could do is not buy the game. Each franchise loses gamers with each installment. That's normal.



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