What's the deal with the Wind Waker?

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IxisNaugus said:

Helios said:

IxisNaugus: With regards to Ocarina of Time, Link did not learn of his Hylian heritage until returned as an adult and talked to the Deku Tree's sprout. Other than that, I take no issue with your account.

As for the Wind Waker, that's likely what Ganondorf thought. I think the goddesses have different motives, though; I see the fight over the Triforce as test to see if people are worthy of their blessing. The Hylians failed, so they were thrown out, and Ganondorf was punished for his insolence (it is made evident the goddesses are partial - the Hylians were their chosen people, after all). The Twili were no better off in Twilight Princess, though they used forbidden magics, and so no one 'failed' that time.

Really? Wow, why on earth did I think he was told at the beginning of the game? Hazy memories I suppose, I probably should replay the game again to polish up my knowledge. Thanks for correcting me and my apologies for the misinformation. Nevertheless I still feel the same way about Ocarina of Time's opening.

I hadn't looked at things that way before. It's not ridiculous to suggest that the gods possibly grew tired with the Hylians, should I say incompetence? But this fight for the Triforce you suggested, could you elaborate a bit? Do you feel it was limited to the Hylians or specific species, and Ganondorf - as a Gerudo king - had no place trying to acquire the sacred power? Maybe they disliked how the Gerudo's had evolved as thieves of the desert as opposed to the other flourishing species of Hyrule and carried a kind of negative bias against them? Ganondorf himself did suggest something along those lines in the Wind Waker, or rather he expressed jealousy over the Hylians (correct me if I am misinformed here). Or perhaps they just disproved of Ganondorf's methods of obtaining the Triforce and his reasons for wanting it. 

I'm sure they have a very good reason for it - and I'd like to speculate further on what it is - but to totally cover up the land of Hyrule appears a little too rash, at least at first glance. I also can't help but wonder is why it was decided specifically to drown Hyrule, as opposed to other possible methods of devastation. I can't quite remember if this was ever explained at least to some degree in the Wind Waker.

There's an official story (from Nintendo) that was published around OOT's release, detailing the events leading up to OOT. OOT took place a short while after some fierce wars, where all the different races fought each other, excluding the Kokiri. The Gorons, the Zora, the Hylians, the Gerudo... they were all at each other's throats, the main reason being the Triforce. But supposedly these wars went on for a long time, and eventually people sort of forgot it all began because of the Triforce. It became just wars.

Zelda's father in OOT, the king, was actually responsible for the peace between the different races as seen in OOT. Ganondorf paying homage and kneeling before the king (as seen when you first encounter Zelda) is actually because of the recent peace and Ganondorf recognizing him as the official ruler of Hyrule (or so he wants the king to believe, anyway).

The fact that the peace was so newly found was also why Darunia, the Goron leader, doesn't really trust anyone not of his race, save someone from the Royal family of the Hylians (they were the ones responsible for the peace after all). All in all, it's a pretty interesting story, you should see if you can find it (answer: yes, just Google it. )