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Just for the sake of simplicity, I think they shouldn't be considered consoles. What I mean is that by definition, they definitely are consoles but usually when we're discussion 'console sales', we mean home consoles, not all consoles. Then there's always the one smartass who doesn't understand the actual meaning. The same goes for PS3/360 comparisons when someone wants to tell how Wii is first and the HD consoles are still so far behind. True, but usually completely irrevelant to the topic at hand.