Dinosaurs co-existed with man.

[Slimebeast]

Khuutra said:

Slimebeast said:

Wait a bit man.

I just explained that by "absolute morals" Im refering to what wikipedia calls universal morals. I understand it can easily be mistaken for moral absolutism. Moral absolutism is a different debate altogether, it's not relevant here and it's not used to prove the existance of something supernatural like universal morals are.

It's unfortunate that I don't consistently use the term universal morals since "absolute" morals would be confused with moral absolutism.

And infant genital mutilation (which has a purpose, imagined or real that's up to debate) is not what I meant by torturing babies. Think "3 guys 1 hammer" and you might get what I mean.

What you're referring to is cultural universals, not moral universals. Moral universals don't actually exist.

Again: you are absolutely wrong about this. There being a reason isn't the same thing as a thing being immoral. Generally they're seen as moral for that reason.

"Moral universals" would imply that every single person, ever, has held those morals. That's something thath as never been true, and is not true for any value you can come up with.

Even if there were moral universals (there aren't), it wouldn't be a cogent argument for the existence of God.

I don't understand this post. Cultural and moral universals?? What is that?

And as for the bold, that is not true. Obviously there are people with bad and twisted morals, in other words people who do evil and wrong. But that doesn't disprove universal morals or an absolute right and wrong.