By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

I agree entirely. The adage about wrestling with pigs comes to mind. Ah, maybe it's a vice of mine.


Whichever one of us is factually correct, you've been much more disrespectful to me (to me, not just my ideas) than I have to you or, in fact, I think, to anyone on this site. And it may surprise you to learn that it hurts me to be accused of intellectual dishonesty; which is why comments like these: (Why, we have google! Nothing is beyond our ken! All those sites to reinforce our own preconceived notions. We’ll simply draw from each one like an arrow from a quiver and pray one of them shoots straight.) bother me a great deal, even when they turn ot to be baseless. In my exchange with you, I have quoted four sources in this thread: A table on Wikipedia (the dread fallible encyclopedia) whose numbers were taken entirely from the OMB (I checked); the Senate's own records of party divisions in Congressional history; and the House's version of same. If you want to bring up my exchange with Entroper, I only took from two sources -- and yes, one of them is hardly nonpartisan. But in no case did I participate in anything remotely like "shotgun research"; and all of the sources I used in our own exchange were completely nonpartisan AFAIK. (factcheck.org was the only site from which I quoted anything other than incontrivertible historical fact.)



Tag (courtesy of fkusumot): "Please feel free -- nay, I encourage you -- to offer rebuttal."
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Sen. Pat Moynihan
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The old smileys: ; - ) : - ) : - ( : - P : - D : - # ( c ) ( k ) ( y ) If anyone knows the shortcut for , let me know!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I have the most epic death scene ever in VGChartz Mafia.  Thanks WordsofWisdom!