New World Order was the dream of George Bush Senior.

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Rath said:

nobodyspecial said:

Rath said:

 

And who were the primary countries of the European Coal And Steel Community? France and GERMANY! You're not looking at the big picture though.

Germany is a power in Europe. They don't rule Europe though which is the only way Hitler would of had it.

Ed Miliband is a marxist, he was Climate Change Secretary for fuck's sake, LMAO! Political correctness is a product of marxism and he's hardly been the most politically incorrect politician has he? Also George Bernard Shaw was one of the founders of The Labour Party and he supported Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini. Labour have always had that ideology running through the party. Many if not most (or all?) of those in high positions are communists and some were actually in the official Communist Party before joining Labour.

You clearly do not understand the meaning of Communism or Marxism if you think that Hitler or Mussolini were either.

You didn't say you wanted proof that the EU was going to become the EUSSR you just said you hadn't heard it called that before. If you want proof then Vladimir Bukovsky wouldn't be a bad place to start.

I was kind of hoping for something more than websites using the term to attack the EU for perceieved similarity to the USSR.

If the power was in the heads of nations then why are we told that we have to accept a law because it's European Law? Actually you're right, the power is with our leaders in the sense that they have every legal right to refuse EU laws and leave the EU altogether but they won't do that because they're all in on it. Maybe what i should have said was that the power of the EU that our leaders claim we have to obey is a group of unelected people. Have you ever voted for Herman Van Rompuy or know anyone who has for example? (Unless you're a member of the Bilderberg Group, who selected him, then I'm going to assume the answer is "no". By the way, the Bilderberg Group was also started by the Nazis.)

He was elected by elected officials (the heads of the states of the EU), I agree that is not ideal as it is not a direct election but it's not some sort of shadowy conspiracy like you make it out to be.

According to the Magna Carta (I'm pretty sure it's the Magna Carta) NOBODY has the right to hand over any power to a foreign power. (I'm talking about Britain, maybe other countries have different laws.)

Magna Carta is an important document but has for the most part been repealed by governments over the years. The government has the power to overturn almost any aspect of law.

Fascism isn't nationalism, only communists claim that. (Mainly because the loony lefties want to distance themselves from THEIR Hitler. Yes, Hitler was left-wing and nazism is based on marxism although I hate all the stupid left and right wing stuff really, I prefer simply right and wrong! Don't forget that Hitler and Stalin were partners until 1941 when Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back by invading Russia.)

Hitler and Stalin were 'partners' not out of shared idealogy, but out of a shared desire to avoid war. Fascism does involve nationalism, it's a far right idealogy. I'll post definitions to prove that it is a far right nationalist idealogy if you want.

Merriam Webster -"often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

Britannica - fascism Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state’s authority, and harsh suppression of dissent.

Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged. Fascism arose during the 1920s and ’30s partly out of fear of the rising power of the working classes; it differed from contemporary communism (as practiced under Joseph Stalin) by its protection of business and landowning elites and its preservation of class systems

 

Death of the Father - Fascism - a philosophy or system of government that advocates or exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, together with an ideology of belligerent nationalism

Maybe ruled by Germany is the ideal way Hitler would have liked it but at the end of the day I'm sure Hitler wanted global domination any way he could get it. Plus he's just one man, what about the rest of the Nazis and the other psychos who were all a part of the overall NWO ideology? Like I said, you're not looking at the big picture.

I don't know about Mussolini (he's not really talked about all that much) but Hitler based nazism on marxism and it's very close to communism. This is a known fact and I think Hitler and/or Stalin even said (prior to 1941 no doubt) that communism and nazism were very close. Nazism isn't nationalism it's national SOCIALISM.

It's your problem if you won't do a little research not mine, I'm not doing it for you.

For a start I don't think Herman Van Rompuy was elected by elected heads of states (I'm sure the Kinnocks were involved and Neil Kinnock hasn't been Labour leader for 18 years!) but even if he was that isn't good enough, he should be directly elected by the public. (Even that's not good enough really because the EU shouldn't even exist!) Also, when the current big parties are thoroughly infested and controlled by the NWO it doesn't really matter if elected politicians are involved with electing EU politicians or not does it? Personally when it comes to governments I'd ultimately prefer total direct democracy, the only true democracy.

The government is supposed to work for the people and respect things like common law. Are you one of those people who think the US government should tear up the constitution? Maybe you think it's perfectly right for governments to kill any dissenters? I mean I know that's supposed to be against the law but the government can just ignore old laws and make up any laws they want regardless of the will of the people, right?

If Hitler and Stalin partnered up to avoid war then why did they invade Poland together? And no doubt those definitions you posted are biased definitions, lol! Well, some aspects of them are right like "democratic values are disparaged" and "a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition" which describes the EU and establishment parties that do all their best (including control of the mainstream media) to prevent true opposition parties from communicating to the public. Actually the Britannica definition is pretty much true if short: "Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state’s authority, and harsh suppression of dissent." The part that says "stresses the primacy and glory of the state" doesn't mean nationalism because for a start "state" doesn't necessarily mean country, the EU is (or at least wants to be) "the state". Nationalism is just the politics of being proud of, taking care of and defending your country and its people, it has nothing to do with fascism. For example the BNP is a nationalist party and it advocates freedom of speech, expression and association, pulling out of the EU, far less (unneeded and unwanted) laws and bureaucracy and at least more (if not total) direct democracy like Switzerland. How is that fascist for example? Compare that to current and former British governments who introduced (and the current government is upholding) loads of politically correct (marxist) laws, given something like 75% of the power over our country to the EU and made our country a virtual police state with police arresting and attacking not only many dissenters (especially if they say or do anything deemed politically incorrect) but also people like photographers for taking pictures of, for example, sunsets and attacking and even killing innocent people! Also they use a basically terrorist group called the UAF (ridiculously standing for Unite Against Fascism, total 1984 style doublespeak) to verbally and physically assault opposition parties and dissenting members of the public. Don't you think that's fascism? By the way fascism wasn't invented in the 20s, the word (let alone the ideology) has been around a lot longer and like I said I think its very first meaning meant simply powerful. I don't really want to argue with NWO apologists because they're either evil or totally brainwashed.