| sapphi_snake said: @slimebeast: Or else you wouldn't call yourself a humanist ??? When exactly did I ever call myself a humanist? If you can find a post where I called myself a humanist I'll give you a cookie. you probably wouldn't vote Why wouldn't I vote? I live within a society and am directly affected by laws and policies and political leaders. If these things had no impact on my life I wouldn't care what happnes around me, yet they do, so I can't a afford to be passive. and you wouldn't discuss so much in these sort of topics as you do Why not? It's just a discussion. I'm not trying (nor have I ever tried) to convince anyone of anything. "hey, whatever floats your boat, man. You can believe in xenophobia and racism if you want. Your morals are just determined by your culture anyway so they're not better than mine." First of all, as I said I live in a society. What other people think may have an impact on me (and on other people), especially if these people try to turn their personal morals into laws. I'd have no problem with the racist or homophobes or religious people if they didn't try to turn they're personal beleifs that should concer only them into laws that affect me/everybody. Second, I never said that all morals are good, mainly because some cultures are inferior to others (at least that's how I view things). You ever thought why? Hmmm, well I pressume I have morals which I decided are good and correct and I've probably elevated them to a level of importance that may make them seem absolute (I think most people probably do this). Don't see any supernatural forces at work though. Plus the fact that people have different morals and hold them up to an absolute status kinda defeats your supernatural forces argument. |
I know you never called yourself a humanist on these forums but I imagined that you would imagine yourself to be a humanist if one would ask you IRL. 
Your last paragraph is key. And yes most people do this (elevate their personal morals). There's an alternative conclusion to the one you drew though. Why is this impulse so strong within us, the fact that so many people hold their morals up to an absolute? Why is it so hard for us to tolerate different opinions on our core moral issues? I can't see the necessity to evolve such a strong moral sense so quickly.
And about different morals, actually when it comes to core morals we have the same morals. Why is the world evolving its common morals to the Human Rights that we agree upon universally, no matter if you're atheist or religious. Human Rights = absolute morals.
