Wii remote with wii motionplus built in is Real.

[Alby_da_Wolf]

LordTheNightKnight said:

Alby_da_Wolf said:

LordTheNightKnight said:

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But Sony and Microsoft are not really trying for those. And even if third parties are, it's also just as likely they will fail for the same reason they couldn't get a strong foothold on the Wii.

If they try hard enough they won't fail (in the sense they won't lose money), but I can agree that the current installed base could give good games for WM Plus a good but not overwhelming success, while initial installed base will allow at most decent success and nothing more for Move and Kinect games and the two new platforms will need at least one year of good sales to allow their games the potential success a WM Plus game can hope for right now.

Edit: BTW, from the infos we can gather, we can say Sony did really well regarding HW, but still has a lot of work to do for SW and marketing, while MS is working hard on marketing, but still cutting sorry figures due to bugs, and having cut corners to save on HW costs it got a lot of unpredicted troubles on drivers, and, just like Sony, still has to work on SW too. In both cases, they made considerable investments, so the undeniable fact that both are lagging behind in one or more fields is really baffling, unless both be repeating their old errors, Sony pretending to succeed just by HW excellence and MS by marketing.

Well they perhaps assumed they could just get their own motion systems and jump right in, while Nintendo still went in with what they knew would work and then moved on bit by bit.

Yes, this is also very likely, in quite different ways from each other, both Sony and Nintendo would like to simplify the winning formula to deploying a "total weapon" and having the market falling to their feet, because it would be so easy if it were true (yes, it looks quite childish), while Nintendo knows that not only genius, but also balance, accuracy, careful planning and hard work are of the essence and carefully tunes every field, reaching maximum efficiency. Nintendo too makes errors, they are humans too, but balance reduce errors, and when things work, they range from good to excellent, with a rate of outstanding result higher than competitors and legs added up, giving as a result higher long term averages and total results. Let's not forget BTW that the lowest ever Wii's weekly sales are a lot higher than both competitors' minima.

Time will tell anyway, but we can already say from its conference that Nintendo doesn't look worried and it resisted the temptation to react rushing things, so it will have its weapons deployed as planned for Xmas.