Atheism and morality

[pizzahut451]

kowhoho said:

pizzahut451 said:

ManusJustus said:

pizzahut451 said:

ManusJustus said:

If anything, Atheists are more 'moral' than the rest of society as we have the lowest crime rates of all 'religious' groups, though that probably has more to do with atheists tending to be more educated and wealthy, which are better predictions of likelihood to commit crime.

just a fiiiiiiine example of arrogance that is so incredibly high among atheists

Its not arrogance if its a fact.  Look at statistics on the matter, you'll find that atheists tend to be more educated and wealthier than the rest of society and that atheists have lower crime rates.

As I said before, I think economics is the biggest predictor of crime, and it makes sense that wealthy people aren't going to be knocking up banks and jacking cars.  Thus, atheists commit less crime but aren't necessarily more moral than the rest of society, though its ridiculous that people would consider atheists less moral when they are the best behaved members of society.

Oh yeah? The fact that you generalize everything in that post makes me wanna puke. First of all, a group of people CANT be more educated than the other. You'll find atheists who are smarter than christians and christians that are smarter than atheists. And statistics werent done on ALL christians and atheists, so its pretty stupid to say that ''atheists tend to be more educated and wealthier than the rest of society''. That is incredibly arrogant

Oh, now I see why you don't want to talk to me. It's clear you have some prejudice going.

Education has nothing to do with intelligence. If the statistics are reliable and say that atheism and low crime rates/wealth are correlated, you can reasonably come to the conclusion that an atheist is less likely to commit crimes or make little money than other people. That is incredibly stupid. That is like saying a white person has a less chance to comitt a crime than a black person. Atheisam and religion have nothing to do with those people comitting crime. To tie those people with the fact that they are atheists or religious and say thats the reason for their high or low crime rates is dumb. Thats why that statistic is retarded and biased. And if someone was a REAL christian, he or she wouldnt comitt a crime and thats another reason why that statistic sucks.And another thing...unless the statistic is used on a whole group of people, we cant really say that the other group is less likely to comitt a crime and to make little money than other

This isn't arrogance. I think what you read his post looking for arrogance. You wanted to believe this guy was arrogant because of your inherent prejudice against him. Nowhere in his post was anything "generalized."

I'm sure you thought he was implying that atheism and wealth and all that are CAUSEATED, when in fact he only stated that they are CORRELATED. In other words, you can use the data to make predictions about atheists, non-criminals, and wealthy people, but you can't say that the variables of the study are directly causing one another.EXACTLY!!!!

If you were EDUCATED in Probability and Statistics you would have known that of course. The fact that you haven't taken the course (or just didn't really retain what you learned) has no bearing on your intelligence, however.

In short, you need to calm down. Im not sure about that, i posted that post a while ago, and im sure i was calm back than as i am now.