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jarrod said:
Smashchu2 said:
jarrod said:
Smashchu2 said:
Mr Khan said:
Viper1 said:

That Nintendo France thing was fake.

 

We won't see a new Nintendo home console until 2012 at the earliest.

Holidays 2011. The loss of steam in Japan is going to push them up, even though they could probably hold out until 2012 if it weren't for Japan.

 

Dragon Quest X (where in the hell was that at TGS anyway?) will give the Wii a slambang finish in the region, but otherwise they couldn't last until 2012

Except for the fact that the Wii was struggling in Japan as early as 2008.

With the 3DS, there is no way they can make a new system in 2011. It just isn't happening.

GBA and GC were 7 months apart.  VB and N64 were 10 months.  It's not like Nintendo hasn't done this sort of thing before, and plenty of their teams are currently unaccounted for (EAD Tokyo notably).

And 3rd party wise, they'd get a deluge of content coming in pretty quick.  It'd be Portmageddon, almost everyone would jump at the chance to finally bring their HD games over to Nintendo.

We both know that neither of those had a lot fo games and one suffered because of it.

Nintendo understands that a successful system demand good momentum. This is why Sony is still struggeling with the PS3. This is also why Nintendo has 7 of their own games already lined up for the system. They want to start strong. This means most developers will be tied to the 3DS. This also means Wii 2 can't get enough software.

Nintendo is not going to launch a Wii 2 in 2011 because it would make them too vunerable. A new Wii will come soon, but still later (2012 is the earliest). Nintendo is also not going to follow the same strategy as one of their least successful home consoles.

GC/GBA were pretty loaded with games upfront.  N64/VB less so, but those were due chiefly to market and pricing factors rather than some inability of Nintendo/others to simultaneously support two distinct platforms.  

And momentum is exactly why Nintendo will launch first with Wii 2, and why it'll come just a year after 3DS.  They'll want to get the industry (publwhat they're doing with 3DS and it's (so far) working out.  The plan with 3DS was basically to consolidate their own strengths (in DS) with those of their competitor (PSP), and I think you'll see the same for Wii 2; hold on to their own mainstream/casual Wii base, and grab a good chuck of that vocal HD hardcore from PS3/360.  They'll also want to continue Wii's forward momentum and seamlessly transition that to next cycle, momentum which seems to be waning already and is almost gone in Japan... the longer Nintendo waits, the more they risk industry segments moving to or staying with Sony and Microsoft, especiishers, developers, media, retail, consumers) lined up behind them first and foremost, this is exactlyally now that both have introduced their own motion control alternatives.  They're going to try and "PS2" the competition...

The Gamecube had little to no content. They were left with Pikmin and Luigi's Mansion, both games that were unproven and Smash Brothers. The Gamecube realied on Smash brothers though most of it's life. The Gamecube was dead in the water to begin with.

You are thinking too much about the launch date. Launch dates only matter relative to the competition. If Sony has no plans to release a PS4, then Nintendo can wait it out. The 3DS is getting far and beyond the most attention. Nintendo is making 7 games right now for it, and may have more they have not announced yet in typical Nintendo fashion). The DS also had a lot of titles being develoed, as did the Wii.

Title move systems. There is no way around this. Nintendo will not have enough backing for a Wii 2 in 2011 both with 3DS games (which will, by far, take up most of Nintendo's attention) and games already coming out on the Wii. Nintendo isn't going to rush to the next generation like a fool. The only way Nintendo will jump on the next console is if they preseve that a compeitor will, which neither of them will (maybe Microsoft, but Nintendo ignores them most of the time).

I bolded that line as it misses how console launches are done. In order for Nintendo to seemlessly jump into the next cycle, they must have games. This is why they wont launch in 2011 because they will not be able to pool enough resources and risk more by jeprodizing either the 3DS or the Wii 2. As of right now, there is no threat of consumers going to the competition becuase they are not going to buy PS3s or 360s (50% of Wii owners are females who will not buy the HD systems).

So I see no firm reason Nintendo should launch in 2011. Every time I hear people say that, they relate it to the Gamecube, one of Nintendo greatest failures ignoring the DS/Wii schedule.