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Hyruken on 24 September 2010
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steverhcp02 said:
Hyruken said:

But can pirated copies play on xbox live?

As Bungies data seems to be about how many people were playing while logged into that right?

So if we look at their data it would indicated that Reach might have been undertracked here. Because if it did nearly x4 what Halo 3 did then how can their weekly numbers be the same? It is just a matter of time before Track/NPD etc all release the figures so i guess we will find out in a couple of weeks.

As for some peoples replies i think we might have some hypocrites in da house. Some are dissing Bungies stats and saying you can't trust company figures. But yet those same people diss VGC for not having the numbers Sony recently posted for console numbers. Can't have it both way's. And if i had to trust one company in the games business it would be Bungie without a doubt.

What are you talking about? I have yet to see anyone claim Bungies numbers are false. Stop trying to start trouble.

What people ARE saying ialo Reach outsold Halo 3 according to VGC, so that alone points to more sales than Halo, duh. People are then saying Live users may have increased which has nothing to do with sales but would increase UU for Halo Reach. 

If the ratio of people who purchase dReach with a Gold account is greater than Halo 3 then in theory Reach could have actually sold less and these numbers still be accurate. Im not saying thats true, and no one is saying they dont believe Bungies numbers, theyre saying they dont agree with the OP extrapolation of said numbers to directly correspond with sales.

What "Same people" are claiming Bungies stats are false and also claimin gVGC should count Sonys shipped numbers? Really, im curious who those "same people" are, just starting trouble.

Some of the people questioning the numbers from Bungie are the same people who criticised this site for it's numbers at the last Sony numbers announcement. They may not have said it in exact words but you get the feeling from their posts they don't buy what Bungie have said.

How you read what i said and got to what you wrote is beyond me!

Bungies stats do not mean Reach had higher sales just more people playing it. As mentioned this is most likely due to the fact millions more consoles have been sold since Halo 3 and a lot of those will be on live. Until we get numbers from ndp/track etc we don't even need to talk about sales.

The point i made which obviously went over your head  is that you can't do the whole "But it is from a company release, it must be true!" thing, then when another does it question their data. It isn't about sales it is about having the same level playing field. If Bungie say they have xyz data then believe them. They are not the type of company to put a spin on it. They even admit first weeks numbers were below MW2 but say 2nd week it is ahead of it.  That to me is an interesting comment as indicates there are now more people playing Reach then MW2 (on 360). That is pretty impressive considering one has sold 11m and one has sold 3m.

So as for trying to start trouble, jeez do give over. It's friday, go out have some fun. Don't take the forum so serious...