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Metallicube said:

You put far too much importance on price cuts. I've said a thousand times and I'll say it again: It's games games games. People buy consoles for GAMES, they don't buy consoles because they look nice in the living room. If your console has no games, no price cut will help you. The HD consoles both have had slim models (which I contend have done far more than the price drops). And they've also had stronger releases this year than the Wii thus far. A price cut will give a very temporary boost but that's it.

HD consoles could outlast the Wii, but if they do, it'll be because Nintendo wil fail to release games that people want. Wii did bad this year (speaking in relative terms) because people had no new reasons to buy a Wii. It's biggest two games were a Mario Galaxy sequel (which even the first game barely moved consoles) and a Metroid spinoff with very limited appeal.

I don't quite get how you see it as likely that the HD consoles will outlast Wii, when Nintendo has pumped out some of the best selling games of all time for Wii in just 4 years that have insane legs, and chances are good they could release another one.

As for the HD consoles are "gamers" consoles, and have more loyal core gamers or whatever, I'm not gonna bother arguing with that one because it's nothing more than hardcore elitist nonsense.


This again.  Over the last couple of weeks this argument has been stated a couple of times and I share the numbers last year and the truth of the matter is the Wii price cut is what propelled Wii sales at the 2nd of 2009.  People say it is impossible for a title to sell the amount of copies that NSMBWii sold and not move hardware and to a modest extent they are right every title pushes some people over the edge,just not in the magnitude many believe.  Look even Halo Reach will only marginally increase hardware sales on the 360 after the 1st few weeks.  Looks like this initial week Halo Reach moved an extra 150K.  That wont last long.  Yet here you are in  this thread saying software moves the hardware then you say SMG, even though it has sold 9 million copies, hasnt moved hardware much.  So which is it?

The most ludicrous thing I hear is that it wasnt the $100 price cut on the PS3 that moved the PS3 hardware the last year.  In reality you say it was the slimming it down.  Yeah I can hear the conversation  "Mom can we get a PS3? No honey it takes up to much space on the entertainment center."  Or would the more likely conversation be "Mom can we get a PS3 now it isnt $400 any more it is now $300".  The 360 is a different scenario. MS added value and with the redesign the RRoD perception  has been removed to harnass demand and eliminate the nervousness of purchasing hardware that could go bad.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.