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VXIII said:
thismeintiel said:

My main problem with it is, when did VGC become a site that estimates "active userbase"?  Am I wrong in assuming the year or so I've been here that those HW and SW numbers on the main page are estimates of sold-to-customer?  Or did I miss something, and this whole time they have accounted for failure rates and replacements (I know this is definitely not the case)? And didn't the article say preliminary SALES, not preliminary ACTIVE USERBASE?  So why are we even trying to calculate that, especially considering how almost completely impossible it is?  Or if you want to calculate it fine, but don't say, "Well this estimation on unique users is the sales numbers now."

I mean really you're giving an unfair advantage to other devices, especially Kinect (we know the comparisons will be made).  Basically, you're saying ONE unit of Kinect sold, even if it's multiple to one person/household, count as ONE unit sold here.  But with Move, TWO or even THREE units of Move controllers sold may be counted as ONE unit, since it could be multiple units sold to one person/household.  How does that make sense at all?

We'll get both "active userbase" and standalone Move controllers numbers , don't forget about that , it's more acceptable that way.


I don't mind getting both.  But, when I have to use my own calculator to find the real amount of Move HW (the Move controllers) sold, that's just seems kinda sad to me.  Nowhere in the article was the number 185,000.  The only sum was 140,000, an estimate of unique users to the WHOLE Eye/Move experience.  Now, ioi said that developers want to know about unique users, but doesn't that include the people who bought a PSEye beforehand?  I mean, even though I already had an Eye, I'm still a unique user to Move.  Plus, I think developers want to know that there are an additional ~ 45,000 Move controllers out there.  That's a lot of potential customers.  I'm one of them, and I already bought 8 disc and PSN games that can use Move.

Edit: @ ioi

Yea, I misinterpreted what you said when I posted before , but I got it before I posted this one.  You're going by new purchases of Eye plus the Move.  And with single purchases of the controller, you're taking off those who you estimate already owned the PSEye.  Am I right?