Atheism and morality

[pizzahut451]

Badassbab said:

pizzahut451 said:

Badassbab said:

Yes but atheism isn't a belief like religion. It's more a non belief. And like it's been pointed out those killed by Stalin etc wern't killed because of a religious belief and it had nothing to due with them being an atheist. If you want to play that game than I could list every single dictator, King, Queen, President etc throughout history who professed to a religious belief and put the number of deaths they were responsible for next to their name. It would be a VERY long list. Furthermore don't forget the relationship between the Catholic Church and Hitler and Mussolini. Hitlers religious belief is still up for debate.

Oh but they were. If not killed, then most likely set to prison or to working plan. And i said 1 000 000 times before, he killed for communisam which is also atheistic regime. It doesnt matter if its a religious belief or not. An atheist killed people for being religious to promote his atheistic regime..PERIOD Why you wanna twist that so badly?

Stalin was a paranoid monster who killed his own citizens in their millions. It could be down to religion, different opinions, political opponents, paranoia etc but not just religion. I'm certain Stalin killed many atheists too. It strikes me how you can't comprehend that Stalins atheism had nothing to do with him being responsible for 20 million deaths, he could have been an Orthodox Christian (a belief he was born into) and still killed millions. You haven't even proved Stalins athesim was responsible for 20 million dead. And yet you ask us to ignore the religious aspect of religious based wars. Pure hypocrisy. As mentioned before I could list any tyrant throughout history and put the number of deaths next to their name and the likelyhood is they would have professed to a religion even though the religion had nothing to do with whether they killed millions or not. Exactly the same concept with Stalin and athesim. Same goes with all the other tyrants you listed.

Well, i never said Stalin killed 20 million religious people,  i just said he killed religious people because they were staying in the way of communisam which supports atheisam and is atheistic regime. And like i said religion was the last thing crusades and holy wars were about. Like most wars, they were about power, money and leadership. The same reasons Stalink killed over 20 million people. To say that either religion or atheisam are responsable for Stalin s  kills and religious wars and to say they are bad because of that is incredibly ignorannt.