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HappySqurriel said:
krik said:
lvader said:
X-Man said:
lvader said:
Previous years profits don't count for much, Sony gaming division has lost a lot of money in the last 2 years and continue to do so. MS now make money from Xbox products.

Lol, of course it matters. MS aren't making money, they're making their money back. They're still billions in the hole. Sony are still billions up. And Nintendo are always making a profit.

It doesn't matter to share holders, the past doesn't count for anything. What counts is now and the future. The bottom line is that Nintendo and MS are making money and Sony are loseing it.


You're wrong, the past counts. It counts a lot. Share holders care about business profiles. Sony share holders know the "PlayStation" business, they know Sony can recover the PS3 loses (also remember most of the losses where financed by PS2 profits and where approved by Sony's board). Sony share holders know this because Sony had the same problems with PS1 and PS2. They lost money for 2 years and then made money for 5 years. On the other hand MS share holders never saw profits on the Xbox business at all. 7 years for 7B losses is not appealing to anyone I know.

 Also, if you saying MS is making money based on a single quarter where they posted a profit of $200M you better think twice. They still on a big loss for this year. Also don't forget that the profitable quarter was the Halo 3 quarter. Halo 3 probably accounted for more than $200M profit. So they still not making money.

Just one more thing, in a company like MS, that normally posts way over $3B profit a quarter, Xbox will never be a business to be reckoned with. It's just too small. MS needs a business to secure their future in case Windows/Office sales slow down. Investors want this and this is the reason MS stock has been flat for a while. I doubt any major investor is buying MS stock because of it's Xbox division.

 


Realistically speaking, people invest in Sony because they're so massive it is unlikely they will lose much money (not for any potential profit); it is likely that Sony will get a sell rating after March 31st because they will fail to meet their profit projections and their profit margin will continue to be negligible. Sony (as a stock) is not healthy at all, how does a company make less than $1 Billion profit off of $70 Billion in revenues?


Last quarter Sony posted $646M profit and $18B in revenue. Not good but not as bad as you state. 



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Optimistic predictions for 2008 (Feb 5 2008): Wii = 20M, PS3 = 14M, X360 = 9.5M