@euphoria I've never taken those preorders serioulsy. Another thing to consider is you can get the camera itself relatively cheap, if your intelligent. I got one brand new from Amazon for 25 bucks. thats 15 less than in store. I think the controller itself will do alright. Its 50 bucks. IM sure im not the only guy who found a camera on the cheap to avoid having to pay for that 100 dollar bundle. Wish they had a nav control bundle though







