Church plans to burn the Quran on Sept. 11

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sapphi_snake said:

@Coca-Cola

I would disagree that secularism made the west a good place.

I think Christianity made the West a great place.

You're free to hold that opinion, but it's contrary to reality.

Christian Taliban?  haha.  I'm sure you'd like for something like that but Christianity has evolved very well in the West -most productive and free.

Yes, of course I'd like that. You can never have too many suicide bombers, you know?

I don't deny that lack of education and poverty is a huge problem.  but a lot of these terrorists are well educated and rich - can't deny that.

If you're talking about the leaders that may be true. But it's the widesprea poverty and ignorance that permits them to manipulate and recruit common people over there. Why do you think Christianity no longer controls people like that in the West?

I hope you'll be against closing down the churches or limiting their freedom of faith and worship (like Turkey) or communism of the past.

I am against such practices. I don't view Christianity as deserving any more attention than any other religion, so why would I want churches to be closed down, when I don't want mosques/synagogues to be closed down? And you should add Christians (before the Church and state became separate and they could no longer have their way)  to your list of people who persecute others for thier religious beliefs.

It really seem like you don't like Christianity.  I would agree to disagree on what made West so great.  No doubt Christianity had a most to do with it.   Religious freedom and secular government are both influenced by Christianity.  And christianity encouraged education and continues to do so. You don't see all the good Christians are doing around the world today?

Only problem I have with Christianity is theology.  Some lose their common sense when it comes to thology, but in practice, I believe Christians encourages high values and morality.  

I am not a Christian, but my view on Christianity changed to that off great respect when I read the bible, thought about it, and read it again... Mostly because I feel like the greater number of those who call themselves Christian don't understand their own religion. That the books of the bible are not meant to be a narrative about the life o an actual person; but rather a story about the personification of the logos - a philosophical idea dating back to Greece. Jesus taught people to reject their beliefs, to turn against that which they took for absolute truth. Jesus himself is a character who personified the ideas which lead to the logos (similar to Buddhist Nirvana), he was not an actual person, but the result of the minds of some very wise men. Too bad only 30 books of more than 300 remain.

 

Christianity is a religion of love, love is what remains when belief is stripped away.

 

These pastors in Florida, they are not true Christians; hate mongering is something that grinds right against he core of what it means to be Christian.