| richardhutnik said: Whoever called Obama the snartest man in the world. People said he was atriculate, the same way they said Reagan was. In the case of Bush, it was brought on himself. Bush mangled the the English language and did everything possible to be an embarrassment. In contrast to Bush, Obama is far less that. Not mangling the English language the way Bush did, helps people think you aren't dumb. Again, it is contrast, no matter what you say here. It is this contrast that inanely awarded Obama a Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush. Anyhow, if you want to have this as some sort of argument, and competitive sport, to score points and "win" by making liberalism out to be more evil than conservatism, you can. I would rather it morph into something constructive, that is of value. I feel it is better this way. To get back an earlier point about IQ and liberalism, consider this article in the National Standard on IQ and moral tyranny: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/730avutr.asp Discussing the nature and relevance of intellect would matter here, and be of greater value than trying to one up examples of that which sucks. Like, how important is it? One can argue effectively that that Reagan wasn't as smart as Carter, but governed better, while the opposite of Clinton vs Bush Jr. can also be argued. And then there is the basis of this thread, is if there is a level of stupidity one can sink to which would make them removed from the arena of political discourse like a sign that tells people to "Get a brain morans!". Also, is it better that individual argue from what what is superior, rather than selectively doing "But so and so". I am getting really very much interested in trying to avoid politics, and have people tell me stuff. I find out why you discuss religion and politics. I think you are a really cool poster, but then this political stuff comes up, and it causes the opinion to possibly be changed. |
Erm... are you seriously saying that you posted some cherry picked pictures of horribly misspelled signs at tea party rallies to start a highfalutin discussion on the moral tyranny of IQ?
I really don't have much interest in hashing out Obama vs. Bush, Bush vs. Clinton, or Carter vs. Zombies. As you'll recall, I made a crack about Obama exploding the very deficit he'd promised to tame, and you brought up Bush (as someone always does). I'm always uncomfortable with feeling like I'm coming off like a Bush supporter, but I do think that only in an overwhelmingly hostile media environment could a guy put together a coalition of 49 countries and still be tagged as an arrogant unilateralist. And, for crying out loud, the guy flew jets. I disagree with him on a lot of shit and feel that he was basically a crummy president, but he can't be that dumb. Obama, on the other hand, has never done anything of substance, unless you count writing a creepy ass book about having a seance with his dead father or coming up with some simple "four legs good, two legs bad" type slogans. But the media was eating out of his hand from day one all the same; I long ago lost count of how many articles I've read talking about just how damned smart the guy is. Even to this day, the idea persists. Every time someone goes to criticize Obama, you'll hear them preface it with, "He's really super smart, but..."
Anyway, like I said before, you can find poorly spelled and/or insane and/or inflammatory signs at almost any rally. The idea that this is exclusively or predominately the domain of the tea party is something of a cliche, although if you take issue with their politics, I'm sure the idea that this is the case is a very comforting and seductive one. After all, if they're really so much dumber than everyone else, you can simply dismiss them out of hand. But as a number of sites out there can attest (zombietime.com, for instance), that's just not the case. It's a function of the fact that no other group of protesters has faced nearly as much scrutiny as they do.
Edit: And please don't stop thinking I'm cool. I'll cry if you do!
