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NYANKS on 07 September 2010
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Michael-5 said:
NYANKS said:
Michael-5 said:

Okay fine then Animal Crossing is out for consoles, but as a franchise it's still mega.

Also I looked into it and God of War 1 only sold 3.73 million, so I retract it being a mega franchise.

So actually I change my opinion, AC is mega on handhelds, and games like Forza, God of War, Fable, LBP, Metroid, Kirby, and Star Fox are "super" franchises. I think 5 million is the cut off for mega, and he cut off for super should be 3 million, but with exceptions (like Metroid).

10 million should be a cut off for "freakish." However this is getting too technical as Super, Mega, or Freakish franchises are not technical terms.

Haha that's fine for me because I think most of this thread is pretty rubbish lol.  And why should Metroid be exempted? I know it's a big NAME franchise, but that doesn't change the dollar amounts.  It's not huge. For instance, Uncharted and Gears (which doesn't count, but for example) would qualify as super I think right? They're clearly not on the same level as Halo or GT5.  They are probably moderate system sellers. MGS5, now that was another story as it only sold 5 million, but it seemed to give a massive hardware boost. 

But yes, too technical. Ugh.

Lol, can we just say 10 million plus sales are Miyamoto 85% of the time.  Everyone has a mega game.  Let Ninty be happy for Shigeru's existence, and let Sony continue to make amazingly awesome games while lamenting his existence, until he retires? I'm a Sony fan and this is fine with me, I'm satsified with my games.  :)

Okay fine, Metroid isn't super, but it's an awesome franchise, and has the potential to go super with the semi-casual Other M.

And what do mean Gears is not on the same level as Halo or GT5? Gears games sell 6 million a peice. I guess it really depends on the cut-off, and if it's 10 million, then no Gears isn't the same as Halo. as for Uncharted 2, it sold about 3.5 million, so with my silly cut off, Halo and GT5 are freakish, Gears is mega, and Uncharted is super, but all are great.

As for MGS, MGS 1 and 2 sold about 5.5 million, and MGS4 came bundled with the last backward compatible PS3 model. Hence the hardware boost.

As for your last statment, I can't 100% agree. Before the Wii, almost no Nintendo console games broke 10 million. Not one Gamecube game, and only Super Mario 64 on the N64 did this (with Mario Kart just missing the cut-off).

I will admit that Miyamoto has made some of the most amazing games ever, and has continually redefined the market. From literally saving the video game market in 1985, to making the most established names in the buisness. I just wish I had a Wii (I said I would wait for a backward compatible successor and I stand by it, $200 is too much to pay for a console with about 10 titles I'm interested in, especially since those games are still near full price)

Of course there haven't been many, it's hard and even Miyamoto fails at doing it a lot.  However, isn't he responsible for most of them? Mario and Wii Series instantly come to mind, and any Mario spinoff would apply too. 

P.S. By the way, I still think that "Mad World" commerical really sparked interest in Gears intially, that was some good stuff.