Some Retailers: PlayStation Move will OUTSELL Xbox Kinect!!

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dunno001 said:

M.U.G.E.N said:

dunno001 said:

A quick check on data from my end agrees with the data in his links. If you're going to refute it, then do as he's done, and provide links and reasoning as to why you disagree. (This goes for everyone bitching about things.) Thus far, the argument for Kinect outselling Move has been made much stronger than vice versa. If you don't like that, fix it! Give me the links and data that counters it! Don't just tell me to search for it; doing that is what led me to find what I did.

I did refute it. Go check pre order charts of major retailers. What did you check exactly? Amazon? Toys r us? Gamestop? What exactly did you check? HE made the statement, so he should back it up with some proper new data not months old crap. Fact of the matter is no, Kinect is NOT destroying Move in pre order charts available. That's just a bs statement he came up with which he used some random opinion pieces that is based on old data when if you check the same data sources now show a different picture. I patiently asked him to go re-check sources for this. He is just not being mature enough to accept he jumped the gun.

To anyone who is gonna bitch about it afterwords also, go check the major online retailers who actually have preorder cahrts and such (which is the ONLY way we can at least get an idea as of now), kinect is by no means not destroying Move in almost any of them. Do a proper search before bitching and moaning about this again. I'm not gonna bother coming back into this thread cuz some people should be able to use common sense to tackle something so simple, if they lack that I can't help it. I' done.

I actually checked them via the Amazon network, using it properly. Merely looking at the bestsellers for Amazon alone is useless; that updates hourly with a very limited window of sales. What I did pull up was the "bestseller archives", and set it to all of 2010, so as to not get a skewed idea from the closer preorders of Move's release. What I am seeing is that neither are really lighting charts on fire. Here's the breakdown:

Amazon US: Kinect at #96 for the year, no items for Move ranked in top 100 (list cut-off).

Amazon JP, DE, UK, and FR: Neither with any results in the top 100.

With Amazon JP being Sony's best advantage market, I pulled up the month of August there. And got: Move bundle at #85 (and some recharging stand at #92), Navigation controller at #59. No mention of Kinect.

On the flipside, the US, MS's strongest market, has the following for August: Kinect at #62, Move at #72, Navigation at #86, and the bundle at #94. So why do I say neither is lighting up the charts? #68 was the PS2 console.

Europe seems to be scattered; coming up with a consensus there is more than I have time for right now. But with how close Move is to releasing, it really should be ahead. If someone can remind me, I'd like to look at the numbers again when Kinect is close to release.

Good idea, even if it is just one source.  Checking UK archieves for August, Move is just ahead of Kinect, which kind of makes sense as the release of the 360s saw a big jump in Kinect interest which would be registering in August, however Move is closer so it should be a bit higher.  Rather oddly, the sub-controller was ranking higher than the main Move controller, which I find odd.

For september (so far) Move has shot up to the 20 mark (when I checked) with Kinect down at 69, which again makes sense as Kinect demand should be waning during September with another surge closer to release while September should be showing the surge for Move.