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Lazthelost said:
leo-j said:
Lazthelost said:

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh...


what pre orders link me

 

This was when it first started:
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kinect-Pre-Orders-Begin-Outselling-Move/6970

 

This is from our very own preorder article, look at how high Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports are. Both ahead of the only Move title on there, and Kinect still has 10 weeks until launch.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81775/americas-preorders-chart-28-august-2010-metroid-other-m-jumps/

 

Oh and here is another:
http://news.punchjump.com/blog/2010/07/26/kinect-for-xbox-360-pre-order-sales-no-1-at-toys-r-us/

 

And another:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

 

And some more:
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/30/kinect-pre-orders-on-the-up/

 

And again, ugh so many:
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/3529-sales-projections-for-microsofts-kinect-gaining-some-ground

 

And some more:
http://www.examiner.com/la-video-game-industry-in-los-angeles/kinect-already-outselling-the-move

 

Here's another one about Move not having the buzz Kinect does:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29864/Analyst_Raises_Kinect_Holiday_Sales_Estimates_To_4M.php

 

etc, etc etc...

 

Do you guys get it yet?


As long as you realise that none of these links support your claim, I think we're good here.

1) Your first link refers to the amazon.com preorders, which you deride in a later post when MUGEN suggested you should look at the amazon.com preorders.

2)  Your second link is Americas only, which would discount upwards of 60% of Move pre-orders

3) The next link is from old data and again, only covers one American retailer, and it looks like they were talking about one day's sales only.

4) The 4th link doesn't mention whether or not Kinect preorders are outselling Move preorders.  There is no mention of Playstation in the article.

5) the 5th link is a rehashing of the 4th link, with the same flaw that it doesn't mention playstation, so there's no way of telling which device is selling better

6) The sixth link is an analyst's opinion.  It doesn't mention which device is selling better.  The analyst thinks that the buzz on Kinect is better, but never says which one is selling/going to sell better.

7) Your 7th link again, is Amazon pre-orders from July.  In fact the author sums up by saying that the figures don't mean that one will outsell the other.  Again, the problem with citing this link as evidence is that in a later post you said this:

It is almost like you are assuming that Amazon is where everyone pre-orders. I guess by your train of thought, all the other retailers in the World that sell videogames don't matter. I mean hey, if I can just look at one store and see something, than obviously it means it is the same everywhere.

You can't cite Amazon preorders as evidence and then say that they aren't credible.  This isn't a fanboy thing.  The fact is that there aren't any convenient ways for us to "all go look at the preorders".  This is why people have jumped down your throat.  I think that most people on this site believe that Kinect will outsell Move (at least in the short term) because Move isn't different enough from Wii for the general public.  You just have to be more careful with your phrasing, and if you're going to cite a wealth of links, make sure that at least one or two are relevant to your initial point.