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jarrod on 31 August 2010
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ryuzaki57 said:
jarrod said:

Eh, there's also arguably the most important 3rd party exclusive this gen coming to Wii still; Dragon Quest X.  There's also smaller 3rd party titles slated for next year you've missed, like Hudson's Lost in Shadow or THQ's de Blob: Underground (also on PS3/360, and also going to sell best on Wii, just to counterpoint).  Several licensed titles are also getting Wii versions next year, like The Avengers or Puss-N-Boots, and you can still expect the usual sports releases (Madden 2012, PES 2012, NHL 2K12, etc).

Of course the real drivers for Wii have always been 1st party, and there's already several big or notable games for next year in that regard (Zelda SS, Mario Sports Mix, western releases for Xenoblade & The Last Story).  As of now Wii seems on even keel, if not better, with PS3 or 360 for "outstanding exclusives" next year, the real problem is the comparable lack of multiplatform support.

As for Wii 2, 3DS is pretty much laying out Nintendo next gen gameplan... which seems to ensure the core gaming audience gets in early on their system.  Maybe they'll manage the sort of support that needs (like 3DS), maybe they won't, but it's clearly the path they're taking, to try and reconsolidate the market under them.  Wii 2 will follow 3DS much in the same way Wii followed DS, at least in terms of how Nintendo positions and handles them.  By the end of 2011, putting together a PS3/360-plus spec machine for $249 shouldn't be any issue either.

Bear in mind that no one has actually seen ever a screenshot of DQX yet, which can be explained in two ways : either the development of the game is at its very beginning and DQX would not be ready for 2011, or Square Enix is still considering other platforms.

As for exclusives, don't forget that every game releasing only on PS3/360 is exclusive compared to Wii (Medal of Honor is exclusive to HD console for example). And western release for Xenoblade and Last Story is far from certain. Tales of Graces has still not be announced for the West and wasn't shown at Gamescom. If ToG is not released in the West, there's little chance Xenoblade and Last Story (which are not part of a well known series like Tales of) would make it.

And finally, as I was saying in the 3DS thread, we have so far little information on what 3DS line up will be (in terms of core franchises, much of the projects announced are remakes of PS2/N64 games). The line-up needs to be far more convincing if Nintendo wants core gamers as early adopters (especially disappointed DS owners).

There's also a third option for DQX; they just haven't shown it yet.  Yuji Hori's recent comments on the game when being questioned if it was still coming for Wii sort of confirm that (yes it's still coming and "sooner than you think" was more or less his reply).  If DQX did go elsewhere, it wouldn't be to a Sony or MS platform, that's for sure.

"HD exclusive" is neat little argument sidestepper; I was talking purely actual exclusives.  I even mentioned Wii's overall issue (missing the multiplats) but it's exclusive lineup for next year is more than competitive, it's arguably the best of the 3.  And what bearing does Tales have on TLS or Xenoblade? Xeno was already confirmed for America and TLS was already copyrighted as well.  Plus the fact that Tales was from Namco, not Nintendo... does the fact PS3 didn't have Vesperia brought over mean we're going to miss out on WKC2 and Ninokuni?

3DS has an insane amount of 3rd party franchises committed at this point.  Metal Gear Solid, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Professor Layton, Pro Evo, Samurai/Dynasty Warriors, Ninja Gaiden, DOA, Power Pros, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Ridge Racer, Super Robot Taisen, Etrian Odyssey, SMT/Persona, Sonic, Monkey Ball, Harvest Moon, Saints Row, Contra, Naruto, Assassin's Creed, Ghost Recon, Splinter Cell, A Boy and his Blob, de Blob, Gundam, Deca Sports, Kororinpa, DJ Hero, The Sims, a Harmonix music game, the usual EA Sports line... no we don't know how many will be remakes/ports, and yes the propensity for that is higher on handhelds, but so far only two are actually confirmed as later ports (SC Chaos Theory and SSF4) and at this stage in a platform's cycle, if it even has this much support that's not exactly unusual.  PS2 had plenty of ports itself upfront (DOA2 Hardcore notably).