Americas Pre-order Chart 21st August

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HexenLord said:

arcane_chaos said:

I am still puzzled by all this concern/doubt about GT5, I'm no fan(and maybe that's why) but I'll will just sit back and watch expectations be blown just like Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain

I don't think you understand the force of the GT racing series. Its the Halo of PS games. Its the Call of Duty of drivers. 

 

I'm honestly not concerned with sales, despite the low pre-order numbers for a vast number of reasons.

 

Too many people are in doubt of a solid release date. Even though we are drawing very near to the Nov. 2 release date and they still haven't pushed it back further, too many people are still in doubt that this is actually it. Lots of people want it, but too many people are too used to waiting for it. This isn't helping pre-orders. Most people don't like ordering a game a year before it comes out. Once major advertising kicks in, the pre-orders will sky-rocket. It will do at least 500k U.S. pre-orders. Doesn't seem like much? GT games have a notorious history is pushing out 100k weeks for a few months on end. This console generation has certainly given rise to a new breed of 'core' gamers, where attachment rates are at a MUCH higher % than before for most games. 

 

Most people honestly doubt its release. Once they realize its out and in stores, the fury shall be unleased. Most people's "3 million WW sales" will be U.S. alone by the end of 2011, with ~1.5m in Japan and upwards of 5.5-6M in Others by the same date. It may take it until sometime 2012 to break the 10M mark, but it will happen.

 

Another reason it doesn't have tons of pre-orders is because of the current 'situation'. A lot of people who want GT5 don't own a PS3 yet. HW sales will be up for the entire month after the release. 

 

I know people like to babble on about how one game can't push HW like that and it won't sell that much because the PS3 doesn't have a huge user-base ATM..... etc. Look at it this way. Its one of the largest selling franchises on Playstation. To put it in retrospect for some people:

Grand Theft Auto Series (for Ps1/2/3)

GTA1 (PS): 2.32M

GTA2 (PS2): 3.42M

GTA3 (PS2): 11.6M

GTA: Vice CIty (PS2): 14.2M

GTA: San Andreas (PS2): 18.42M

GTA4 (PS3): 6.7M

Total for GTA Games on main PS console (not including addons): 56.65M

Average for GTA Games (56.65 million / 6 games): 9.44M

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Gran Turismo Series (PS1/2 Only)

GT1 (PS1): 10.85M

GT2 (PS1): 9.37M

GT3 (PS2): 14.89M

GT4 (PS2): 10.55M

Total for GT Games on main PS console: 45.66M (Actually 50.85M including 4/5 Prologue... with 5 Prologue being undertracked by ~1M)

Average for GT Games: 11.41M

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As you can see, even with the GTA games being the top sellers on the PS2 several times over, the GT racing series has remained strong throughout its history with the PS. IT HAS THE POTENTIAL. If you look at GT4s sales, it sold 770k week one in the U.S., which is about where GT5 will probably end up opening... but GT4 still went on to sell 10 million.

This, this, this, this, this a thousand times over! We keep going back to that comparison of GT5 vs MW2 (PS3) preorders but what seems to be getting overlooked is the fact that if GT5 actually did match MW2 preorders it would completely and utterly annihilate GT4 sales. 770k first week vs. over 1.5 million first week. On top of that GT4 wasn't bundled in America and released in February, GT5 will be bundled and is releasing right before the holidays. As you point out even if GT5 falls a fair bit short of MW2 preorders around 500k it would still probably outsell GT4 in Americas. To give it a bit more perspective, GT5 has a pretty fair shot at outselling or selling close to Uncharted 2's first week worldwide just in Americas. Go check that game's sales.