Michael-5 said:
Sorry I live in Canada, Wii is $210 here. Also wow really, a 250 gig 360 is the same price as a 160 gig ps3? $400 bundle looks nicer because of the bigger hard-drive, but like I said you can buy a Wii and X-Box for that price.
sure you could but you could buy the ps3 alone for that price with hd gaming of xbox and motion gaming and much much more
PS3 motion gaming will NEVER be anywhere nearly as good as the Wii. Kinect too, Wii is amazing, just play it someday, PS3 MOVE will just never have the game library as the Wii, nor the innovation of Nintendo. It's easy to exactly copy ideas.
It's a good bundle, but it's still $400 and I know people who buy two or three cars for that price.
two to three cars..............lmao
are those toy cars
My sisters boyfriend bought a Pontiac Sunfire for $100 and it lasted an entire year. I'm not completly sure how old the car was, but it was under ten years old. :P This comment was only intended to be a joke, but it's not hard to find a car for under $400, $700 is ideal, but still a PS3 MOVE bundle or a car....hmmm.... Prices canadian too btw, so the car was actually $90 US.
and they must be very very poor and this doesn't concern them atall as they are nowhere near targeted or even know what a ps3 or xbox or a wii is
This was a joke man, relax
I'm saying at that price, you can get an X-Box, and a Wii.
or you could buy a single standalone device having both the features and much much more
See there is the fault in your logic, the standalone device does not even have all the features of a Wii or a 360, and does not offer anything more except Blu-Ray. I can't watch videos off my computer from my x-box (I have to manually transfer files using a USB on a PS3), Sports Champions and any Wii - knockoff titles will never ever be as good as Nintendo titles, I can't have two profiles on the same console at the same time (so I can't play against friends locally), I can go on...
The Wii will be better then PS Move, and X-Box is the same quality as PS3 (not going to argue about that now, so don't go off saying PS3 is better because of blah blah blah).
the wii will be better????????????? - hasn't wii already been on the market for 4 years and PS MOVE is certanly better than the wii
and if you don't want an argument then don't bullshit others that xbox is the same as PS3.
Your just very one minded, do you really think the PS3 is in any way better then the 360 gaming-wise? Do you seriously love your PS3 soo much for ignore all forms of competition? I mean ..... I'm just done with you. If your not going to be logical, why bother. Go beleive your PS3 MOVE bundle is better then a Wii and a 360, I'll just watch PS3 sales not even budge over Move, and see Sports Champions get a 7/10 rating.
Seriously wow.......
Some people, who actually just want a PS3, with a few games that can use the Wii-mote, but not many. Sony is trying to tap into Nintendo's market, simple as that and at $400, $400!!! I don't see many systems selling
actually they actually do sell alot of their higher priced PS3 SKU's
How many? Is this your opinion or can you back it up? I know when Microsoft used to have a $400 Elite, a $300 Pro and a $200 Arcade, 80% or consoles sold were Pro Models, and only 10% were Elite/Arcade models each.
$50 for the Move controller, $80 for the Move controler and PS Eye, wasn't the last one $120 for a Move Controller, PS Eye, Navigation Controller, and Sports Champions. I specifically recall the top Move bundle being priced $120.
you really need to do some research,you base your claims on false stuff and try to argue or you just make your own facts to prove your points and however you want it to go
$49 for the MOVE controller
there is no bundle containing just the eye and move
only bundle is PS eye,ps move,sports champions
Nope I looked it up, $50 for Move Controller, $90 for Move with PS Eye, $100 for PS Eye, Move Controller, and Sports Champions. $130 for a Move controller, Sports Champions, PS EYE, and a Navigation controller.
It's just that the only bundle is the Sport Champions and console bundle, however I was not wrong about my prices, I do my research.
Standalone, the Move controller is $50, Eye is $40, Sports Champions is $30, and Navigation Controller is $30.
Also stop being insulting, your making very biased illogical arguements, and I make one price mess up of $10, seriously...
Kinect..
still not proven
and by next step it means a more premium experience and of HD
Whats not proven? Pre-orders it's already twice as big as Move and it's not comming out for 2 more months. At least it's not a complete Wii immitation.
Main thing blocking PS3 sales was price? Thats odd since the 360 Elite and PS3 have been the same price for a year and a half, and thats when PS3 sales have been highest.
yeah and at the same time XBOX 360 has had a way cheaper version of their console but PS3's cheapest version is as cheap as the costliest version of XBOX 360
But that still hasn't changed and never will. If Sony makes a price cut, so will Microsoft.
this comment of yours just showed that you have been bullshiting all along and that you are biased along with your previous comments
How?
reporting wrong facts to prove your point and make other believe that the other system does really have anything different.comapring highest priced to other consoles lowest priced version,etc
Wrong facts? Dude I made a $10 price mistake, big deal!
Now your just being a baby, you know I'm right, most people in this forum agree with me, I'm even getting messages saying I'm great at debating, but your still going on. Why is everything a competition with you? Why can't you accept loss sometimes?
If you really beleive Sports Champions will sell over 10 million go ahead! I'm not stopping you. You can beleive the same about Gran Turismo. I'm just giving very logical reasoning onto why it won't sell 10 million. My initial comment wasn't even towards you, and you bud in man. Other people even say "why are you turning this into a gran turismo versus halo thread?"
Seriously..
Also, $400... you said price is the main issue for low sales and well......$400!!!
sure it is
but not as high priced as it first was
ps3 had a huge priced but it survived and has done very very well for its price.np other console would have survived it.all goes to the strong PS brand.
people are now purchasing the ps3 which they wanted at first cause its cheap now and might consider adding an accessary.
When PS3 launched at the 360 was $400 (for 20 gigs), PS3 sales were not that great, and more people are buying 360's now, and have been since the launch of the PS3. Thats why the sales difference is still 5.3 million and growing (and only dropped because of a PS3 Slim).
No doubt the PS3's Playstation/Sony brand name helps sales. Were not talking about SEGA here, I have a PS1-3, and borrow a PSP, if they weren't great consoles, why would I buy one?
Still the 360 is selling more, and even if the PS3 came with a convertible sports car, and a sexy girl, if it costs a million dollars it won't sell that well.. (This is a joke too).
$400 is a lot of money, and PS3 only sells about 11 million a year. Even if 20% of new PS3 owners buy that package, thats only 2 million a year, and with about 3 years left on the market (assuming MOVE continuously sells 20% of PS3's, PS3 sales remain constant and Sports Champions is still bundled with the Move/PS3), it's still going to be short by at least 2 million (including $100 bundle buyers). This still is an optimistic estimate, as I beleive the Kinect will have a 20% attach rate, and Move 10%.
Right Price, $120 includes the navigation controller, which is essential to play most hardcore games (killzone). $100 gets you a Sports package, but without the navigation controller, you won't be able to play many games.
again wrong
there is no $120 bundle
Didn't say bundle, and it's $130, sorry I'M OFF BY $10!!! SHOOT ME!
Kinect however is getting Pre-orders, it has a large foundation of games
we can't track move pre-orders then how the hell can you say that
and how the hell does kinect has a large foundation of games??????????????????
your bias is leaking from your posts
Kinect has 15 titles is this holiday,move has more than 30 and more in Q1 2011
Wow seriously, your unbeleivable. Going nuts on me for a $10 price mistake and giving completly random numbers for games.
VG Chartz tracks pre-orders for games, and if you ever read one of those pre-order analysis's, you will see that Kinect is a lot more popular then the Move.
also what Bias? I HAVE BOTH A PS3 and a 360! What consoles do you have? Seriously? I also get a Wii from a friend from time to time, own a DS, and also borrow a PSP now and then, so I have access to them all.
As for titles, Kinect has 15 launch games, and 20 games releasing before the end of 2010, 15 of which are exclusive to the Kinect (EA Sports Active 2.0, Michael Jackson, Zumba Fitness, Harry Potter, and Imagine Fashion Party are mulitconsole).
Move as 21 games either MOVE compatible, or releasing before the end of 2010, 14 of which are exclusive to the Move.
So about the same, but to be fair, only 9/14 PS3 exclusive Move games are exclusivly for move, where 14/15 360 Kinect exclusives are Kinect only (The odd one out is Fable 3).
comes with a much more reasonable $300 bundle,
how the hell can you say its reasonable????????????????
it depends from what the individual consumers need is
$300 is a far more reasonable price considering a PS3 is $300, an Elite 360 is $300, and a Wii is $200. If your going to compete against the Wii, making a knockoff product for double the price is definatly not reasonable.
The $400 Move bundle is still awesome, but I seriously doubt the average gamer (Wii/PS2 gamer) has $400 to spend on a system that immitates a $200 Wii which has a much better library. This $400 is going to appeal to more hardcore gamers.
Why do you argue with everything? Now $300 is less reasonable then $400 when for the last year no console has cost $400?
and from what I hear (PS3, Wii, and 360 owners alike), Kinect looks awesome.
you must be living in your own world if you are hearing from all the console owners
and from your post history not mcuh else can be expected from you
hm..... looking at your post history, everything is an arguement where PS3 is better in every way imaginable, and that it's the worst selling console out of the big 3 for magical reasons.
Do you even have anything other then a PS3? Cause I have at least one console from every make. I own 4 Nintendo consoles (not the Wii :( ), all Nintendo Handhelds except Game & Watch, all Playstation consoles, a Sega Genesis, Dreamcast, and CD, and have access to a Wii, PSP,X-Box and a Sega Gamegear. The ONLY one I can't play is the SEGA Saturn, and 20 year old Atari consoles.
You critisizing me for being bias, yet I have no plans to purchase either a Kinect or MOVE, I have Gran Turismo 5 AND Halo: Reach Pre-ordered, and essentially have all the big consoles.
Good Job.
It's inovative,and thats what made Nintendo so big this generation.
its inventive not innovative
and nintendo being so big this gen had a biggest of help from then industry leader's this gen console being so highly priced
Now your going to critisize my terms? Watch a Nintendo Press conference, the single most often used word Nintendo uses to describe themselves is Innovative. When I say Kinect is innovative, I mean just that, just like Nintendo has been innovative for decades.
MOVE is a Wii copy.
Kinect is going to sell because it's new, Move isn't because it's an immitation Wii-mote.
sure it will sell
but the point you are depedning upon doesn't always come true.not all new things sell.
and if MS need to improve kinect software alot
If MS need to improve kinect software a lot? wow, sorry how old are you? I'm 21.
Lets see what happenes, I usually make good predictions.
and so are all on this site and veterans who all have different views and all have failed predictions time and time again
Only you argue against me, I haven't had people tell me that NO Kinect and Halo will fail misrubly, and if they did I would discuss why they think so.
So far my only two big debates have been....with you... discussing that Gran Turismo will be bigger then GT 1, 2, 4 and also Halo. The other being right were where I simply just said that I don't think Sports Champions will sell 10 million....and then you started calling my bias, and that I make up numbers, and that I must be wrong because my sentences are coherent and make sence, and aren't baised entirely off opinion.
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