Wii losing its thunder?

[thx1139]

Metallicube said:

thx1139 said:

Metallicube said:

thx1139 said:

Sorry Metallicube when you have 70M consoles already sold a title isnt going to cause everyone to run out and purchase a Wii.  It is the library and what the console offers. Pre 2010 holiday Wii was your only choice for a motion controll system.  That is now gone.  A couple of long time Nintendo faithful titles arent going to cause a bunch of people that dont have a Wii to go all nostalgic and pickup a Wii for them.  The people that would go nostalgic have already purchased a Wii.

Tell that to the PS2. The console has sold a good 140 million units. There's absolutely no reason Wii couldn't sell those kinds of numbers too. Keep in mind the Wii is still outpacing the PS2, despite having zero hardware movers in 2010. Though I think somewhere in the ballpark of 100 - 110 million is more realistic, since it does not have near the 3rd party support PS2 had, plus the added sales of people rebuying for the slim and the issue of consoles breaking down. So it will probably not outsell PS2, but will certainly outsell PS1.

Whatever, I'm done arguing that Donkey Kong Country is going to move consoles, because the sales will speak for themselves when they come in November (although I'm sure some people will still use the excuse that it's just the holiday boost rather than the game). But I will say one more thing, it's not about nostalgia, it's about making a great game that appeals to a wide audience. Donkey Kong Country is a game that seems to accomplish this, as NSMB Wii did. Side scrolling platformers are games that are widely loved by many, but rarely made these days, creating pent up demand, which is why I think this game can be huge.

And the people that wanted the side scolling platformer picked up a Wii for NSMB. They arent going to pickup another Wii for DKCR.  What does this have to do with the PS2 anyway.  The PS2, GCN and Xbox were similiar in capabilities.  The Wii had one capability the PS3 and the 360 did not have that people want and that is motion control.  That advantage is now gone.  They all have good libraries (I would say the PS3 and 360 libraries are superior) and now all have motion control.  The Wii also was the fitnes console and that is gone as well.  You want to sweat get Kinect and a 360 and that word will get out.

How are you so sure that everybody who likes side scrollers picked up a Wii for NSMB? That's like saying that everybody who likes FPS already got a 360 for Halo 3. Yet I think we both know that Halo Reach and Gears 3 will push some consoles.

Maybe some people simply love Donkey Kong Country and aren't as into Mario. Maybe some people were on the borderline with NSMB and are now swayed with DKC. Maybe some people sold their console and are now thinking of rebuying with Donkey Kong. Maybe some little kids are getting their first console this holiday and are interested in Donkey Kong. I know people that love the Donkey Kong Country series more than Mario games. You even have it as your sig; software is what sells hardware, and DKC will only strengthen Wii's library.

As for the motion control, it's only a piece of the puzzle to the console's success. The root of Wii's success isn't necessarilly motion control, but rather embracing the roots of arcade-style gaming, similar to the Atari 2600 and the NES. That is, pick up and play action games with little focus on cinematics and complex controls and more focued on raw gameplay that appeals to a wide audience. Motion control is just a means to an end.

No it is motion control gaming.  You know it is motion control gaming otherwise the N64 and the GCN would have done just as well.  Do I think Reach will push some consoles? Do I think Gears 3 will push some consoles? Sure, but not to the extend that many here claim that DKCR believe will push Wiis.   I for one also dont believe NSMBWii was the reason the Wii sold well last holiday.  It was the holiday, the price cut and the continued interest in both Motion Control gaming and fitness (After all for every 2 Wiis that are sold a copy of WiiFit is sold).  No game this deep into a generation has a huge impact on console sales unless it is a total game changer.    Something like WiiFit was a game changer, something like Kinect is a potential game changer.  A new platformer side or third person for a console known for platformer titles isnt.  Software may sell fabulously well, but as my signature says.  Now it is about the library.  Wii has a strong enough library already.  Problem is the public is starting to see that thier is something else out there that offers the differentiator that the Wii used to have a monopoly on.