The PS3 has already caught up to and passed the 360 sales!

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Icyedge said:

ZenfoldorVGI said:

M.U.G.E.N said:

360 fans and anti sony force will disagree and will ignore than year head start

'shrugs' can't really do anything about it

Bullshit. Actual sales are not hypothetical. Sony chose to release their console a year later than the 360, and that has had benefits and penalties. It was a strategy decision, NOBODY is ignoring it, it's a fact. It's also a fact that the strategy has landed their playstation brand in the shitter compared to last generation, and their console in 3rd place. Stop making excuses for a huge company that made a bad decision, they aren't your friend.

Next gen, they don't start with the brand name superiority crutch. Their brand is arguably in the worst position of the three, and if they launch late, they're screwed. Excuses or not.

Saying that "360 fans" anything is already starting your statement off with a biased tent, and imply that anyone ignores the "headstart" is an insult to everyone on this forum. It wasn't a headstart, it was a business strategy that was deliberably planned by both Microsoft and Sony, and one benefitted and one did not. The playstation brand has suffered as a result, that is inarguable, and we arne't comparing speculative "what if" numbers here, because we have the real numbers, fyi.

You have some true argument there. Other thing I find that your being a bit extremistic. For Sony and PS3 to be where they are right now, their brand name is far from suffering. They still have a long way to go with HDTV and blu ray just gaining ground on the market. Their console still being price at 299$. The fact Microsoft gained more recognition and that Sony is selling less of a higher cost console doesnt mean Sony's branding and reputation is suffering.

I'm only taking about the Playstation brand, not the Sony brand, and I'm only comparing their playstation brand this generation to the Playstation brand of last generation under the PS2.

Under those conditions, it is suffering, has suffered, and will continue to suffer until it attains total dominance. The brand went from a supermajority to 3rd place out of 3, and it does not matter what the price is, or when it was launched. Those things are business tactics used by Sony, with the probable intent of putting short term profit ahead of their brand popularity, which they are forced to do because of their own financial hardships.

The "why" does not change the "what." When we start pointing to the "why" instead of taking responsibility for the "what" we're straying from the facts. Particularly when in this case, Sony actually caused the "why" on purpose through a """"""business strategy"""""" and I can't put enough quotations around that term when I relate it to the PS3, because VGChartz doesn't allow posts that long.

1. Let's launch it a year after everybody else.

2. Let's charge half a grand for it.

3. Let's make it big and bulky, because the Japanese HATE that shit.

4. Let's not have many good games ready for launch, or for the whole first year.

5. Let's stop paying 3rd parties to keep their games exclusive to our console.

6. Let's market it shittily, through ineptness.

7. Let's act snoody about the prices, and overconfident about our sales potential.

8. Let's remove backwards compatibility to make people buy PS3 games.

9. Let's go from first place to dead last place, but no matter what, don't change the strategy until the board members fire our asses and hire a new management team.

10. Let's launch late again next generation, and announce the fact that we plan to do just that, proudly, as if it were a positive.

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