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pizzahut451 on 15 August 2010
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Scoobes said:
pizzahut451 said:
Scoobes said:
pizzahut451 said:
Scoobes said:

You clearly don't have much experience with the mentally ill. 

Btw, also in the same wiki article it actually states the cause of her death:

"On July 1, 1976, Anneliese Michel died in her sleep. The autopsy report stated that her death resulted from the malnutrition and dehydration due to almost a year of semi-starvation during which time the rites of exorcism were also performed.[4]"

Starvation, dehydration and mentally induced anorexia are well known to Psychologists.

So what word do the psychologists use for the state when you dont wanna eat food AT ALL ???? And how coe doctors and psychologists wernt able to help her???

After years of unsuccessful psychiatric treatments, they gave up on medical treatment and chose to rely solely on the exorcisms for healing.[2] The rites of exorcism were performed over the course of about ten months in 1976.. Though she had received treatment for epilepsy, by this time, at her own request, doctors were no longer being consulted.[2] This was because Anneliese mentioned the "demons" to the doctors, explaining that they started to give her orders.[1] The doctors seemed unable to help, and Anneliese lost hope that medicine was going to be able to cure her.[1]

I repeat what I said before:

"You clearly don't have much experience with the mentally ill."

I gave you the term for people that don't want to eat food at all: "mentally induced anorexia". Lots of people don't want to eat any food. Whilst the reasoning may be different the psychological and physical effects are the same.

When you go to the doctor can they always help you? We're still discovering causes and treatments for mental (and metabolic and biological for that matter) disease all the time. Doctors do the best they can at the time, but they can't cure everyone with every disease. The past is filled with poorly thought or misunderstood diseases and treatments. Just because they couldn't cure her doesn't mean it can be attributed to demonic possesion.

Look at the underlined, she refused treatment at the time for epilepsy. A relatively common problem that even today has no cure and is no way attributable to demonic possesion. This coupled with the fact that she wasn't eating shows she had significant mental health problems. In this day and age she'd probably be forced to have treatment as she was a danger to herself as she wasn't eating. Back then they got away with it.

If this was to happen today, it'd be considerred the priests fault for not ensuring she received proper medical attention and to a lesser extent social services for not correctly assesing her properly.


i see...still doesnt explain why she didnt want to drink holy water and couldnt get pass by icon of Jesus Christ, and start seeing demons every time she was praying, and eating bugs and spiders and started speajing some un-human language that only priests with very high biblical and relgious education could understand( go check it out on youtube)

All sounds like deep rooted psychological problems to me. Doctors these days would probably be able to give a better diagnosis than they did back then.


Or maybe demonic possesion???