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binary solo said:

Solid_Snake4RD said:

welshbloke said:

Solid_Snake4RD said:

toadslayer72 said:

@ Squilliam

I think that's a pretty good point about who may be buying the new 360s.

another good point is who is buying new 360s and no games

Personally I suspect the second hand market has a lot to answer for. If you are buying a console this late in the generation and it is not bundled then the sales pitch almost inevitable slides to the second hand market. Bascially it is very easy to buy lots of titles but have none show up in software sales.

 

now you are just drunk

it can't be that people are buying $299 hw  and then just can't buy software

and it just simply can't be that all have been doing it as 360 HW have been alot and SW have barely moved.

I think welshie has a good point. If I ever get Wii or 360 I'll only be buying used games. There's probably only a few more PS3 games this gen I'll buy new. I've bought more PS3 games new than I did PS2 games, so my new game buying phase is almost over.

its not just you who is buying games so your excuse is full of shit

by your say all the old games should just stop selling cause new console owners would only buy used games but they are selling

As to Squillies idea that RROD fear has been holding people back, well for me there was no way I was buying a used phat 360 when the next gen starts. But now I'm almost certain to be buying a used 360s (prolly Arcade) a year or so after Nextbox releases. So take that for what you will.

sure but we aren't talking about used stuff here and still there would only be some fearing RROD not millions

 

fastyxx said:

Solid_Snake4RD said:

toadslayer72 said:

welshbloke said:

Solid_Snake4RD said:

toadslayer72 said:

@ Squilliam

I think that's a pretty good point about who may be buying the new 360s.

another good point is who is buying new 360s and no games

Personally I suspect the second hand market has a lot to answer for. If you are buying a console this late in the generation and it is not bundled then the sales pitch almost inevitable slides to the second hand market. Bascially it is very easy to buy lots of titles but have none show up in software sales.

 

I agree with this too. If I were to buy a PS3 from this point on, I would definitely be buying used games.

you agree on everything that makes sales of 360 seem to get new owners

if used games were then sales of old games would just drop and used game sales would increase

with amount of HW increase 360S has brought there should be some increase in SW but it has barely changed

I'd add that there just isn't a dominant game right now that all new buyers would get.  So even if they are buying a game or two, it's just spread across the hundreds of possibilities

yeah but the SW has barely moved so even that doesn't stand

 

r3av3r2k1 said:

Solid_Snake4RD said:

welshbloke said:

Solid_Snake4RD said:

toadslayer72 said:

@ Squilliam

I think that's a pretty good point about who may be buying the new 360s.

another good point is who is buying new 360s and no games

Personally I suspect the second hand market has a lot to answer for. If you are buying a console this late in the generation and it is not bundled then the sales pitch almost inevitable slides to the second hand market. Bascially it is very easy to buy lots of titles but have none show up in software sales.

 

now you are just drunk

it can't be that people are buying $299 hw  and then just can't buy software

and it just simply can't be that all have been doing it as 360 HW have been alot and SW have barely moved.

When i bought my 360 i bought 4 or 5 games with it, all of them were second hand, with that im saying that, of course, lots of people are upgrading,  probably the major chunk of the new sales are upgrades, but you have to consider also that many are from people with other consoles, that always wanted a 360 but never felt comfortably buying one, because it might broke down, but with the redesign they feel its safe to buy one now ,and these are gamers that are well informed and know how to get cheap games

Because the slim is still a novelty, it will always attract existing gamers  first be it existing 360 owners or other console owners, but when kinect launches  thats when we will see if microsoft can attract  new buyers in mass numbers

As i see it, microsoft as played a brilliant strategy so far, as far as i can tell  each slim is making profit(?) so resells are good for microsoft  but the big question is still unanswered, will the slim with kinect attract new buyers, thats the big question now that the following months will answer 

again the same shit excuse as all oh i buy used games so it explains the SW sales

if that was the main issue then all old game sales would just drop and people would buy used games but no they are still selling

DirtyP2002 said:

The Xbox 360 slim released 8 weeks ago. Since then it sold more than 1.75 million consoles. Before the Slim release, sales were about 80k a week --> So without the slim the Xbox 360 would have sold about 650k. So 1.1 million more Xbox 360 were sold than usual.

So you guys really think there were 1.1 million Xbox 360 owners upgrading? Sounds like nonsense.

your logic is actually wrong

before slim,new consumers were buying 360 which is would have been 650k

and 1.1m that boosted by SLIM would be upgraders

 

and you really think that 1.1m people are buying  360s and no SW? SOUNDS like nonsense