FaRmLaNd said:
Did I ever say that the US wasn't? Its just hypocritical to discriminate against a large percentage of the populace in a country that is secular. Some reports suggest that up to 13% (though I think its less) of the populace are gay. That is not a small minority, its outright hypocrisy in a country that separates church and state. Its as simple as that. The US and other western countries that don't allow gay marriage are secular (Australia, my own country doesn't allow gay marriage either), but they're clearly not secular enough. Marriage should either be defined as a legal connection between two people (no mention of sex at all) or only have civil unions with marriage being simply a label one gives to it. To not allow massive portions of the country to marry just doesn't make any sense. |
13% seem very high. About 10 years ago newsweek had the survey and found to be about 2%.
I don't care about the percentage, I think what we need to do and I believe are doing is to find the right definition for marriage. Legal connection between two people is not good enough cause then cousins will be included as well. So, it's a problem when we try to come up with a new definition for marriage. So, I don't think it's just about religion vs secular question.