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superchunk said:
Slimebeast said:
 

Arabs know that if refugees and their children are allowed back to Israel then Israel as a Jewish state will cease to exist. Thus mission accomplished.

So that's not a peace deal. The Arab nations could have offered it in 1948 but it's far too late to come with such utterly stupid propositions now.

Back to Green Line yes, refugees and their children no. That's the terms today.


Its not the point that the Arab offer included full return, the point is Israel didn't even consider it or at least come to the table. If Israel had any intention of wanting peace for the region more than controlling the land, they would have come to the table and offered a counter proposal.

They should have been receptive to the idea of FULL peace with EVERY neighbor and at least tried to negotiate the deal. Your Israel doesn't want refugees or green line, they want continued bloodshed and eventual control over the whole land.

Well you're right that a proposal can be discussed and negotiated. Obviously the Arab nations won't come with a proposal that Israel will just accept withouth modifications. It's the nature of negotiations, you start from different views and compromise.

But Israel has had peace with Egypt and Jordan for some time so obviously they know that you can make peace with Arab states without even drawing back to the Green Line. Just delete the stupid return of refugees demand and the negotiations can start from there. Refugees will never ever be allowed into Israel and Israel wont compensate them financially either. Arabs caused the refugee problem by attacking so it's their problem to handle. Israel shouldn't suffer because of it.

Then we have the Jerusalem issue of course. It's in Israels interest to stall so they can surround East Jerusalem and make it impossible for it to become a future Palestinian capital, I fully acknowledge that and of course Israel is acting accordingly. So it's up to the Arabs to come with a better offer or else Israel will keep stalling because they benefit more from it.

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