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[Alby_da_Wolf]

Buzzi said:

Alby_da_Wolf said:

r3av3r2k1 said:

Alby_da_Wolf said:

r3av3r2k1 said:

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Another question, who still thinks wii will catch ps2 lifetime sales ?

I still think that if Nintendo wants, if it does what is needed to support its sales long enough, it can do it. It won't reach 50% anyway, and unless it receives enough big boosts, the sales it will reach will be lower than we previously thought. With last winter sales, sales supported to make them drop slower than it actually happend, and long enough lifecycle, 150-160M would have been easy, 180M would have required more effort, but not too hard, and 200M very hard but not impossible, now, if nothing changes enough and fast, 150M will be possible, but not easy, 180M very hard, more than that very, very, very hard.

I don't think wii can reach ps2 anymore because there's little Nintendo can do now to spur sales again, its only wild card left is the vitality sensor, and that i think, will probably be an idea that is only going to be fully implemented with wii´s successor

And that, is going to be wii´s biggest treat in the years to follow, its successor, because there  wont be a relation similar to PS2 and PS3 were one is way overpriced for the general public and the other is affordable, since that has never been Nintendo´s way of doing business, the wii successor will almost certainly be quite afordablee from the get go, thus nulifiing one of the major advantages wii would have over its younger brother. And with a new console out, Nintendo will focus all its efforts to make sure it has great games from the get go, and that way abandoning support for the Wii , and with no Nintendo games, and no 3party support wii will go down hill really fast

Nintendo has less big moves left, true, and I agree that Vitality could be disappointing, but with at least two price cuts available, possibly bundling Balance Board too during the last years, and an even modest boost given by VS, a 8 years lifecycle, with its last 2 years after Wii2 release (most likely to happen in 2012 according to many), is possible, if only Nintendo wants it. Do your maths, with 4 more years after next Xmas 150M is within Wii's reach. Easily, though, doesn't mean without doing anything, sales numbers won't fall from sky without Nintendo doing anything, easily means that to reach this goal Nintendo has moves available but it must be willing to play them. For sales even higher, though, a total commitment and the hardest work by Nintendo would be needed, and here applies what you say, so I agree with you that having to concentrate its efforts on the new HW, better results than 150-160M would be from very hard to nearly impossible. 

I think Nintendo don't want a new gen next year really. They could just cut the price, make many bundles and push the Wii to record sales if they want (with losses maybe) and to pass PS2 LTD sales in 3 years...but that would mean new gen at end of 2011, because really, you can't continue with that kind of sales; instead they are taking the situation way too slowly, they'll probably cut the price once a year and make some bundles/colours until E3 2012 when they'll show Wii 2. While this could work to maximize Wii Software sales and to make a better console, they'll help Sony recovering its losses and MS in enstablishing Natal for all gamers.

Personally if I was Iwata I would show something about Wii 2 at E3 2011 and then, looking at the reaction, decide when to launch the new console...they could just show it as something about the current console, the Wiimote was firstly designed for the GC after all.

Yes, but thinking to damage competitors even at the expense of its own profit is the worst part of MS philosophy, not really Nintendo style: with at least two price cuts left they can give at least two more Xmases to Wii as main console, Xmas 2010 and Xmas 2011, add all the other moves available and they have enough to maximize HW and SW sales and launch Wii2 during Q3 2012 without rushing it. And all the moves you suggest are sensible too IMVHO, just I see the situation a little bit worrying, but less than most think. Just think about this: it's quite unlikely that Nintendo execs suddenly became all idiots, up until now they planned things quite well (except some shortages in the past), so if they are delaying their moves so much now, maybe they are just willing to sacrifice Summer sales, that would be normally lower than yearly average anyway, for a longer strategy's sake. Don't forget too that if they show they support their console for a long time, 3rd parties that this gen tended to snub Wii, next gen will have one more good reason to support Nintendo better. BTW Sony survived to much more serious troubles, Nintendo must really show it can handle smaller troubles without any big problems, otherwise its credibility will take a nasty blow.