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Khuutra said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

Nope I think your the one who is missing the point here

How the hell is fighting aliens on different planets across the galazy or fighting golems and dragons on ancient lands be any less fantastical than the JRPGs? How the hell is that being 'grounded'? It's all fantastical, all unrealistic..it's just different takes on it

It's grounded when you come up with scientific explanations for everything that happens. Mass Effect is the clearest example of this, and I will say it again: it's grounded in physics. Everything is painstakingly researched and justified, from th way space combat is waged to redundant nervous systems in some aliens.

It only asks two conceits of you:

1. That there is an element which can create the Mass Effect

2. That there is extra-terrestrial life

THat's it. That's all it asks. Everything after that is based on hard science and grounded scientific theory, particular for the way communal AI would work.

The difference between Western science fiction and Japanese science fiction tnds to lie in explanation and justification for different elements - in the West we tend toward "hard scifi" a lot more often. That's not opinion, that's not interpretation, that's fact.

And you'll notice how western fantasy tends to hold to its own itnernal logic (generally derived from D&D or Tolkien) which does nont hold down Japanese fantasy in any way.

The only way you could argue that Japanese scifi and fantasy isn't more fantastical is if you have no frame of reference for comparison.


ME is about traveling the universe while fighting aliens! Sure there will be some 'physics' to it but how can you even argue with the fact that it's all fiction? It's all 'a' type of fantasy....it's fiction, it's fantasy and it's just differs in the approach based on their cultural influences that's all. .

You seem to be stuck up ME and can't move on to other WRPG's it seems so let me ask you this....or rather tell you

Valkyrica Chronicles for most part is more grounded on physics and such than ANY WRPG this gen.....now what? And you seem to be under the impression that since western games base their games on sci fi mostly, it becomes more sensible, more grounded and more 'believeble? That line of thought baffles me. Sci fi is anything but grounded....if it was it WON'T be sci fi

Japanese do like fantastical approaches mainly due to their cultural influence however this doesn't mean they are any less or more grounded in nature than the west. And you do realize this person admitted he doesn't play JRPGS? Yet he comes forward to give his 'expert' analysis of the situation. What a load of crap. The day fighting dragons becomes less fantastical than the JRPG counter parts come find me, cuz until then overall WRPG's are the of same unrealistic nature as the Eastern coutner parts...both influenced by culture, mythology and sci fi....



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