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thranx said:
kitler53 said:

patents cover ideas not products.

MS may have the idea patented but that is not proof that kinect can detect fingers movements or sign language.  i'm not going to look up anything for you but over the years we have seen plenty of patents from nintendo and sony that haven't become real products. 


I would think they would have to have something close to doing it. if not people could just patent any idea even if technology isn't there for it yet. I could be wrong. And alot of stuff that is patented my nintendo/sony/ms may not tsee the light of day just because they do not believe it will bring a return on investment, or there is no way to market the product. I do doubt this will be used much with the kinect for games, but it I could see it used in place of voice commands for some of kinects other features that may be translated to future products of the kinect family or line.

but that is just the point.  people/companies can and do exactly that.  there are patent holding companies that do absolutely nothing but patent ideas then sue companies for patent infringement.

i know i said i wouldn't look up an example .... but i looked up an example. nintendo/ms/sony got sued a couple years back:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/

MS patent the idea which may or may not there is a valid product behind it.  and even if there is a valid product behind it, it doesn't mean kinect is it.  maybe kinect2 will have it.  unless ms or someone developing for kinect says kinect can do it we have no proof to go on.