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Spagoodle on 05 August 2010
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darthdevidem01 said:
Spagoodle said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Carl2291 said:
Spagoodle said:

Their characters have more realistic personality traits. With JRPG its the same cliche unrealistic characters over and over.

What's funny is... WRPG's have just as many cliche's as JRPG's.

And to counter what you said, I'm gonna advise you to play Demon's Souls

So true

Just play Dragon Age Origins

Its plot is a mish mash of a thousand cheap fantasy novels.

 

I'm not talking about narrative specificity. Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout and Oblivion have pretty cliche story's. Its the individuals characters and their development that set WRPG's apart from JRPG's for me.

Dragon age is a great example. Look at the Arc of a character like Alistair and then compare it to a character like Hope from FFXIII. The depth of characters and the motivations for how they evolve are worlds apart. Alistair past is slowly developed and how the player chooses to engage Alistair and his struggles shape how he comes to terms with his past. His story has some depth and feels more grounded in reality. Hope listens to some bull shit corny speech and is all of a sudden he is magically changed.

Don't even get me started on Alistair, I couldn't care less if he died, I never got attached to his character or his story which wasn't done well at all. Speaking of speeches, Dragon Age tops there too

On the other hand each characters story in Mass Effect 2 was done excellently, I could get attached to them and understand them. I wonder what went wrong in Dragon Age with Bioware.

Onto Hope? I got attached to Hope and loved the way his story arc came out, and there was no corny speech that changed him in one instance, maybe you played a different game but there were many phases to Hope's development as a character. Key ones in Chapter 3, 5 and 7. Each phase was done very well and Snow's sacrifice to save him was the final jolt that made Hope change his mind.

Hopes primary motivation was crap in the first place. His anger was so obviously misplaced that the whole premise for his angst was a joke to start with. I was over stating things when I said it was one speech that was responsible for his turn around, but I disagree about the scene where Snow sacrifices him self to save Hope. I found it to be over dramatic and corny. Nothing he said was insightful, just emotional pandering.

This is just a matter of taste because clearly what we identify with in a character is so different.