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Jereel Hunter said:

LeandroBaffa said:

No ps3 revision in sales....5,4 milhons diference for 360, its a joke, always sony consoles are ultra undertracked, i'm leaving vgchartz....sorry

Hey chief, the only joke is people who make posts like this without reading forums on the topic. 5.4m is accurate, Sony announces "shipped" numbers, whereas other company's published numbers are sales. So meanwhile, while the 360s is only finally able to keep a few on the shelf, Sony's numbers include the dozens of units sitting on shelves in every store, and those units in transit, etc...

But if you want to leave the site because you don't like to see objective numbers, then don't let the door hit you on the way out. Have fun reading articles on Sony Defense Force.

Actually AFAIK the big 3 all report the same these days: shipped to retail. None of the big 3 report sold to consumer, because, well, nobody nows this number accurately down to the last console. And when companies report sales figures for financial reporting purposes they can't report estimates, they have to report actual number of units sold. The only numbers they can report accurately are the number of consoles that leave the factory floor (but at that point they are stock on hand in the console maker's inventory), and the number of consoles they invoice to THEIR customers, meaning retailers/independant distributors.

That's not to negate your point however. Fact is 2.something million difference between Sony shipped and VGC consumer purchases is actually well within VGC's tolerance. Sony certainly has inventory in the retail chain, and that could be as much as 1 million without it being an unreasonably large amount of stock to be in the retail system. So the potential "under track" by VGC is more like 1.something million, not 2.something million. 1.something million as a % of total PS3 sales is something between 3 and 5%. People who are going to cry over a 2.5-5% error on a site that explicitly states sales numbers are an estimate really have no business being here, and certainly have no business making comments.

I'd like to see LTD sales numbers be accurate to within 3%, regular adjustments over time should improve accuracy considerably, compared to the sort of error that can be expected on weekly sales (10-15% I'd say is acceptable for weekly sales, 5-10% for quarterly / yearly). A 5% LTD accuracy would be at the upper end of acceptable, but still reasonable if that was only for one console out of the 5 hardware units being tracked and all the rest were under that 3%.

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but there's got to be enough uncertainty in the system to throw another measly little 21,000 onto the PS3 sales for 19 December 2009. C'mon guys, you know you want to. We know that there's no way PS3 is overtracked LTD, so such a tiny little adjustment that doesn't corrupt the numbers in the slightest would be such a nice thing to see.