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BigBoobieHead said:
nightsurge said:
BigBoobieHead said:
nightsurge said:
unknown_soul89 said:
carlosmp said:

X360 is outselling PS3 right now, ¿what will change that?

I think X360 has more things, like the Arcade bundle, Halo Reach, Kinect, etc.

A month time, the 360 is selling more because they came out with a new model those numbers don't last, you're in denial if you think halo reach is going to sell 360s, anyone who cares about halo has a 360 everyone else sees it for the mediocre shooter it is, arcade bundles have been out for years ps3 still outsells the 360 year to year and kinect lol don't make me laugh 

Insecure about something?

First, no, not every Halo fan has a 360.  Far from it.  I can name at least 15 of my close friends who love Halo yet don't have any current gen console yet.  Anyone who thinks every Halo fan is already on 360 is purely ignorant.  Also, love how you troll it generalizing that everyone thinks it is a mediocre shooter.  It has way more features than current more recent shooters and Halo: Reach is going to expand on that even further.

Second, how can you say the PS3 outsells the 360 year after year when since it's release the PS3 has only outsold the 360 one year so far which was last year.  2005-2008 were all 360 with higher sales.

And lastly, it must really upset you that Kinect is receiving far more interest and way way way more preorders than Move even with its high price tag.  Must be a rough time for you.

Oh and why are you using shipment figures when ioi and TheSource themselves have gone over time and time again why Sony's shipment figures seem to be inflated/off from all the major tracking sites?

Horrible post, oozing of bias. I'l present you with some hard facts:

  • Microsoft has sold 3.6M more consoles than Sony
  • Microsoft had more than a years head start 
  • The PS3 had no games at the start
  • The PS3 has always been a lot more expensive (Key Point)
  • Sony keeps consoles out longer than MS
  • The PS3 is seen as more futureproof
  • PS3 likely has more price cuts left in it - although MS are trying to battle this

Bottom part is bullshit considering all these tracking services don't actually track many markets that Sony sell into.

So basically what you are saying is that Sony's sales in un-tacked regions don't count.

People who also talk about overshipped are just plain crazy, and don't know what the term actually means.

So, yes I see the PS3 having higher sales soon enough (talking about shipment figures).

Ugh... I'm sorry but I'm not being biased.  Just informed.  Try reading up on this site a bit more.  ioi and TheSource (you know, the admins and the operators of this sales tracking system) have explained all of this many times as to why Sony's numbers are off and how very little of a difference those "un-trackable regions" actually makes.  Also, they do include some numbers to cover those regions, just fyi.

ioi and TheSource - two men a vast majority of sales/game enthusiasts deem very unreliable (even if they are or not), do not know how much difference these 'un-trackable' regions make, because, they are...'un-trackable.'

I don't even think the PS3 is undertracked here, I'm just amazed at how little people know. Like those saying 'overshipped.' Could somebody please explain what exactly they think that means to me. Lol.

Fyi, it is illegal for Sony's numbers to be 'off.'

No one is saying they are manipulated illegally.  We are saying we don't know what all Sony counts into their shipment figures.  For example, Sony may count orders as they are received as "shipped" even before they ship out of the warehouse a few weeks later, thus giving their numbers an extra 4 weeks of shipment data over everyone else.  It has also been suggested that they may count repaired units as "shipped" since they are also being technically shipped out to customers.  No one knows for sure.  Neither of those would be illegal for Sony to count and it would still show the discrepancies we are seeing.

Also, please don't mistake me for claiming that it is a fact Sony's numbers are misleading.  I am merely suggesting that possibility since we can't know for sure and the evidence does seem to point to some sort of error.  I am inclined to think the issue is with what Sony counts as "shipped" since all the major tracking sites, NPD, gfk, vgchartz, etc. are well in line with one another and with MS and Nintendo figures.