One problem with Kinect, only two games actually work/control decently and their in the genres and target audience wii dominates, I think MS is going to have a lot of sales on launch, a few sales from bundles with people who don't know any better and then nothing, as for the move it all depends on how much the devs get behind it, Sorcery looks great, and alot of games have the option for it, but having the option isn't going to sell it, it will make people more likely to buy with less exclusive games for it, so yea move depends on all the games, kinect depends on the stupidity of consumers who don't already own a wii, if it was just the first part they'd probably do pretty good but everyone who might be interested already has a wii and won't want to buy kinect
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