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Jay520 on 31 July 2010
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Killiana1a said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Killiana1a said:
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Killiana1a said:

Microsoft will win beyond a reasonable doubt with the Halo Reach bundle and Kinect bundle. As for the markets, the usual PS3 dominating Japan and  the 360 dominating the Americas. 

Funny, racing fans keep bringing up the concept of "long legs," what does that mean?

Personally, I think counting the numbers of a game  to make the argument it has "long legs" when it has not sold 3 to 5 million in it's 1st year is pointless and almost every single video game executive would agree with me. You can tell from the first month sales, hell even the first week sales whether a game is going to be a huge seller or not.

Blur was released on May 25, 2010 and has sold less than 1 million copies between the PS3 and 360. Forza Motorsports 3 was released in October 2009 and it looks like it will take another 5 to 10 years for it to reach Forza Motorsports 2 numbers.

In a similar vein, Gran Turismo 4 sold 10 million copies. Do you think the publishers of Gran Turismo 5 are expecting it to match? I would think so, but then again it has been 5 years since GT4 and the market has changed.

Here is my argument: the racing genre is no longer on par in relevance compared to the FPS, RPG (including MMORPG), and Action Adventure genre. Yes, Gran Turismo will always sell and we will see Mario Kart and Need for Speed games, but looking at the racing games of this generation compared to the last, the enthusiasm for racing games present in the PS2 era is no longer here.

Please prove me wrong with hard numbers.

Sure, just make sure you  don't disapear in this site once GT5 proves you wrong.

I have been wrong many a time before and have a strong enough ego to come back. Heck, I comment on political blogs where have had my whole posts turned upside down, corrected, and shoved down my throat while the other commentators laugh.That is with my real name attached to the posts.

So no, I will not disappear and I stand by my argument that GT5 will not sell as well as GT4 and other racing games did during the PS2 era and before. If anyone will be proven wrong it will be the GT fans who believe with all their heart and soul that GT5 will push 7 to 10 million in it's first year and sell 5 million PS3s at the same time.

Thats why your skeptical....

No1 claims GT5 to push 5m console WTF even GTA4 with it's hype didn't do that.

No1 also claims GT5 will do 10m in it's first year, MORE like 10m LTD(LIFE TIME SALES) not first year.

I'm skeptical because there are too many posts from GT fans saying how GT5 will be the biggest system seller for Sony since Final Fantasy 7 was for the PlayStation. Gran Turismo 5 will sell nowhere near a quarter of the PS3s as Final Fantasy 7 did for the PlayStation.

Well go to those specific GT fans. There is no reason to bring that up here.