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disolitude on 27 July 2010
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raygun said:

StardustHD was the only game I heard that they got running in 3d at1080 60hz, but recently they nocked it down to 720.


Hah, no i'm not superhuman, but if I notice it even a little, it bugs me, and I find myself looking for it. A 120rps color wheel w/6 colors means the color changes 720 times a second, not fast enough I say! I notice the rainbows when there is vertical movement on screen. I would love to fiqure out the math envolved with that, ie if a screen object is moving vertically, at what rate are you going to see some color artifacts, because the wheel isn't spinning fast enough?  Let's see, 120hz, 6 colors, that's 720 colors/sec, which means 12 color changes per one 60hz frame. What would it take for one of the colors to 'miss', say with a black screen with a falling white box? Are there certain falling rates that resonate with the color wheel's speed? Yes, there are, but my brain is to tired to fiqure it out, but I know it happens, I can see it. Do you realise at any givin instant there is only ONE color on screen? Think what that must be doing to your poor brain! Also, bulbs burn out. The ultimate tv will be OLEDs, but they are a few years off, and I don't want to keep waiting for the next best thing. I don't need the best, but the best for my money.


You are right with 720 colors per second on these new DLPs...Is this enough? I think it is...

Before I bought my samsung I read that most people will not see the rainbow effect anymore but there still some people out there. I was slightly concerned as  I remember seeing this on my dads old 2001 Toshiba but ever since I got the 2008 Samsung DLP I have not seen it even once.

But you may be one of the few people still being able to see it...

As far as best for the money...again I repeat, that Laser TV from mitsubishi

- No bulb to replace! (yay! I hate bulbs and thats why I bought the Samsung LED DLP instead of Mitsubishis bulb one)

- No color wheel

- Best colors - can produce up to 90% of the colors a human eye can perceive (Twice that of best current HDTVs)

- 1/4 of the power usage compared to plasmas.

- no picture degredation or burn in until The TV dies

etc

I'f I had 5000 dollars I'd buy the 65 inch Laser TV in a heartbeat. But it is rather large so I see someone potentially being turned off if they need a smaller TV...

As far as that 480hz Vizio I find it hard to believe that is a true 480 hz refresh pannel. 240 hz pannels just came out and were shown at CES 2010... Its probably reffereing to something else like the backlight refresh rate but not the pannel it self.

If you ask me, as long as you have true 120 hz refresh rate, its much more important to have a fast screen response time rather than a higher refresh rate. Sure your picture may be slightly smoother with a 240 hz pannel, but you will still see crosstalk in 3D. 2 ms response time is the fastest these large LEDs have and thats still way too much for 3D. Plasmas are less and more acceptable for 3D IMO. (DLPs are even less)