Give Us Back The Old Nintendo (Nowgamer article)

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LordTheNightKnight said:

Nintendo shouldn't create sequels that don't change much then, as I said before, every gen I expect new experiences and games that are similar to each other are not new experiences. (1)

I shouldn't have to spend more money on an extra accessory to fix the controls in Brawl, they are horrible on the Wiimote.(2)

My opinion is shared by many people, just like the people who wrote the article this thread is based on and just because it's an opinion, it doesn't make it less true.(3) Nintendo have not delivered this gen software wise(4), they have made no effort to fix this problem, they have taken advantage over their nostalgia addicted userbase and introduced the same product over and over again except in different skins. (5)

Third Party support is lacking, yet Nintendo make no effort to fix that problem.(6) Core software has been lacking and yet Nintendo have only now started to fix that problem.(6) New projects and ideas are lacking and Nintendo have no reason to search for them. (7) Being successful has made Nintendo greedy, there sick of being at the bottom and their willing to do anything to stay on top. (8) The fans can keep on deluding themselves, but Nintendo have become the new Sony/Microsoft/Apple hybrid and they don't deserve half the devotion they get.(9)

1. Nintendo is not the only company that does that, so why are you singling them out?

2. Excuse me? You think I'm stating you buy that for that one game? The GC controller would also be for BC with GC games on the Wii, as well as working with VC games. Now even if you don't personally do that, you still shouldn't judge Brawl as though the option isn't there.

3. A subjective opinion cannot be true or false, so claiming it's one or the other is not a valid comment. And just because others share it doesn't mean another other than others share it, and from the sales of these games you are bashing on, you are part of a vocal minority.

4. No, they just haven't made games that pleas you personally, or others, but again, sales show you are a vocal minority.

5. You can't take advantage in the way you are describing unles that is what the people want. You're acting as though it's wrong to cater to their tastes.

6. Bullshit. You call being willing to market Monster Hunter 3 in the west, and even publishing it in Europe, doing nothing? And that's just the most famous thing. Nintendo has been talking to third parties about the Wii, since the beginning. So don't tell me they've been doing nothing.

6. You obviously didn't pay attention to the flood of those in the first two years of the Wii.

7. If there is no reason, then why are you blaming Nintendo for not doing it? Shouldn't you be blaming the lack of reason to do so?

8. God, it's this crap again. Nintendo can't get back on top by doing what you want. They tried that already, and it put them in third place.

9. No, you're just interpreting their actions that way. Nintendo's idea is to combat disinterest in gaming outside your group, and that doesn't make them greedy. It makes them good businessmen.

1. This discussion is about Nintendo, it isn't about Activision or EA and neither have consoles to support. Nintendo does and I expect more from them.

2. Super Smash Bros. Brawl should come with a GC controller, otherwise it's a broken game. Plenty of games are enhanced by accessories, I can't think of many that rely on them though, especially when the previous instalments worked just fine out of the box. It's like buying MW2 and realising that you can't play the game without a headset (which isn't true just in case you don't play MW2).

3. I wasn't saying my opinion is a fact, I'm saying that it's an opinion that many people share and that the point's I make aren't actually wrong because most of them are backed up by sound arguments and examples. It's only different if you want to ignore or judge Nintendos faults. I chose to judge them and others choose to ignore them.

4. When you have a large userbase and a distinct lack of good software, it's only rational that those 67 million people will clamour to whatever's available, no matter the quality.

5. Number 4 comes into play again. If there is a lack of variety and quality, then whatever's available will be bought, it doesn't matter what  it is. Motorstorm and Resistance sold extremely well because the PS3 launch was scarce, but when competition comes along the franchises take a hit, I see the same thing on the Wii except it's ongoing.

6. You only provided one example and that's with an already popular franchise. Give me some examples of what they've been doing to help Third Parties and then I'll compare it to the other console makers. Nintendo being the most successful, I expect the most support.

7. By no reason I meant that there making so much money and selling so well that they don't care about finding and supporting new ideas and projects.

8. They should find a middle ground then.

9. Businessmen are exactly what they are, but when people on the forums parade Nintendo around as if they were the Lords of Gaming, that they are so pure and devine and that everything they do is for goodness of gaming, I puke a little. Nintendo are out there to make money, they don't care how, they don't care about their consumers, they just want your money and the reason there not releasing a Star Fox on the Wii is because it's not going to make as much money as another Wii series spin off or a Mario sport's game. If that's fine with you, then great, enjoy Wii Relax, I'll just go back and play something new on another system.