LordTheNightKnight said:
Doobie_wop said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Doobie_wop said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Doobie_wop said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Your kinda grasping for straw's, listing one or two sequels on the PS3 and 360 doesn't counteract his argument."
Just because he didn't list more doesn't mean there aren't loads more.
Plus new IP is not the same thing as not being a sequel.
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I'm not saying there aren't sequel's on the HD consoles, I'm just saying that in terms of great new IPs, Nintendo is lacking.
When I think of new IPs this gen, I remember Resistance, Gears of War, Little Big Planet, Infamous, Crackdown, Alan Wake, Uncharted, Flower, Mass Effect, Shadow Complex and Demon's Souls. Then you have the robust Third Party support. The only new IPs that come to mind when I think of the Wii is the Wii series.
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Well it's still not the case that Nintendo hasn't done new IPs. They are just often lower profile. Plus a lot of the new IPs you listed were merely published first party, so going by that we have plenty of new IPs from Nintendo, ranging from Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents, to Xenoblade, to Last Story, to Endless Ocean, to Brain Age, to the Wii series, to Nintendogs, to Trace Memory, to Hotel Dusk, to Glory of Heracles, to Professor Layton.
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I didn't realise that we were bringing in DS games, I was only talking about consoles, otherwise I would have mentioned some PSP games. The Wii is the problem, not the DS.
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The bolded part refers to them in general. And you clearly didn't notice a lot of what I listed is still on the Wii.
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The article is specifically talking about the Nintendo Wii, I assumed that everyone else in this thread was also talking about the Nintendo Wii. So when I mention Nintendo in my post in this thread, I'm obviously referring to Nintendos performance on the Wii.
Xenoblade, Wii series, The Last Story and Endless Ocean are the only Wii IPs you mentioned. Xenoblade has only been released in Japan with no Western release scheduled and The Last Story hasn't been released yet, so no one knows if it's going to be any good or not. Your post proves my point and unless you try a littler harder I will remain convinced that Nintendo have put little effort into introducing new IPs this gen.
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But if you add qualifiers, then I can knock off most of the HD games you listed using various means.
And why is a new IP so vital? You need a solid game as well, and Nintendo is not going to make a new IP just for the sake of it. And so far you haven't given a reason to have a new IP other than for the sake of it.
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There aren't any qualifiers, were talking about the Wii and not the DS, that's pretty much it. Every point I made was true and still stands, if I was to start listing off games that haven't been released yet or have only released in Japan, then my list would be much larger.
A new IP is vital when introducing new experiences. Despite what many people on this site may think, Mario Galaxy plays alot like Mario Sunshine, which played alot like Mario 64. Mario Kart Wii plays alot like Mario Kart 64 and Double Dash. Super Smash Bros. Brawl was just not as good as the last games in the series due to the controller. We have 8 Mario Partys and they lost their shine after the 4th. Twilight Princess is a port, Pikmin 1 2 are ports, Mario Tennis is a port and Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is a port.
You can tweak thing's here and there, but every Nintendo game stay's essentially the same. Nintendo are boring, they have such great talent and yet we see the same game over and over again. I expect better from the greatest developers in the world.
