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Metallicube said:

You seem to think that the good games come AFTER the userbase,

the good games come after userbase cause when a new console is launched the software companies project how much it will sell and only then invest for software for that machine.if a game console is $500 and isn't going to sell much then why will they invest in it at the start,they will wait for it.

same way activision is waiting for MOVE,KINECT to add a userbase before investing in it.

why did Wii not get big support at first because companies didn't expect it do do well,but when the userbase grew they said they couldn't ignore the oppotunity available

because of brand loyalty or whatever..

when did i ever say anything about brand loyalties and development of games

But why do these people buy consoles in the first place? Why did you buy your consoles? To play the GAMES on it. So this becomes sorta the chicken and the egg argument.

yes but the games will only come if it has a userbase.

You claim that the userbase brings the games, but really the userbase comes AFTER the slew of quality games.

yes the userbase comes after the quality games but those quality games are also developed on the projection that the userbase will be there.

companies don't make a $50million game if the console is $1000 and nobody will buy it no matter how good the game is

why do you think GTA4 went multiplat cause Rockstar expected low PS3 sales

PS2 didn't even really start taking off until games like GTA3 came out.

PS2 had alot of sales before GTA3.and picking up isn't the point but the point is that if the sales expectatiosn are high then companies invest in that console

Wii sales were in massive decline from 2008 until NSMB Wii came out, then it picked up again.

whatever decline they must be in but even then it had higher sales cause the popularity had reached higher levels

DS launched in 2004, but didn't really start taking off until 2005-2006,

yes cause all the companies were investing in software on PSP and when piracy began they left it.the expectation os software sales wasn't there

when the mega hits like Brain Age, Nintendogs, and Mario Kart hit the platform.

yes software  is a key part but its not all

Sure userbase leads to more dev support, but people buying their consoles is the EFFECT of a strong library, not the CAUSE.

strong library only comes when there is userbase.like so many people boguht the PS2 from the start cause they expectated big games to come

THIS is why I say brand name/price mean little.

again you are wrong.

brand name and price means big and so does software

but you are just saying brand name and price matters little and software is all which isn't true

Because even if you have the cheapest console around, with a strong brand name, and awesome features, people will not buy them unless it has the games to back it up.

people will buy it cause it will have the big name games as SW companies will invest in it

This is not computers or cars or mp3 players, it's videogames. And people will only buy consoles for one purpose, to play games they want on it, brand means nothing to most people.

again you are just stuck on ur own theory and bullshiting.

if brand name means little then why do people buy APPLE products.why do people buy COD over battlefield.

you are simply deep in your own shit

Sony once was arrogant enough to say that 10 million people would buy a PS3 even with no games on it.. they were dead wrong, and they found out the hard way.

sony said that but they didn't expect that.what do you want them to say to their shareholders that we are taking you to hell for a couple of years for a heaven in the future

If brand meant as much as you say, the 140 million PS2 owners would be clamoring for the PS3,

they were if the PS3 was at low price as PS2

which is now only $300.

again you are you stuck in ur own thinking

you don't take the fact that even though PS3 is $299 atm,if has a dmaged brand name.it would have done alot better with $299 in 2006.

you are talking as if the brand is intact as when it was in 2006

But they aren't.. Why is this? Because it doesn't have many games that appeal to a mass market audience. Wii does.

but why did wii have those games cause its userbase got higher