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wholikeswood said:
jarrod said:
wholikeswood said:
jarrod said:
tingyu said:

- SCE has so many studios under its belt: Japan Studio, Media Molecule, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Santa Monica, to name a few. Sony has the largest number of high quality first party game studios in the big 3, although not as profitable as Nintendo (Pokemon Studio overkill any of the Studio mentioned before).

Sucker Punch is 3rd party.  

Also, while Sony has the most studios (barely I might add, just one more than Nintendo), Nintendo actually has a similar amount of staff within it's studios (EAD is HUGE, with near 800 people and 6 sub-divisions, bigger than Sony's largest 2 studios put together).  They're about the same size overall, while Microsoft employs probably about half as many people at it's game development studios (though Microsoft's been expanding rapidly in recent years).

Sucker Punch are 2nd party, surely?

And Microsoft have closed down almost as much as they've expanded...

2nd party is a made up term.  Nintendo created it to "explain" their relationship with Rare in the mid 1990s.  All studios are either 1st party (internal and/or owned) or 3rd party (external and not owned).

Microsoft did do a lot of closing from 2006-2008.  They've been slowly building up since then, and not just with new studios like 343 or Good Science, but also expanding established studios like Rare and Turn 10.

Still a useful bit of terminology, even if it did come about later as a means of verbalising a special concept.

And as for Microsoft expanding studios, Turn 10 are still just going to pump out a Forza title every so often and Rare still haven't released or announced anything particularly brilliant (hopefully the latter's promised surprises are not a let-down), so forgive me for my lack of excitement thus far at recent staff additions to those workforces.

Turn 10's going to take over PGR too actually, it's why they've been beefing up staff.  Rare actually opened up a whole new studio in Burmingham, and this is the studio making Kinect Sports and other new titles.  The old Twicross studio is supposedly working on Rare's classic IPs.