Hyruken said:
kitler53 said:
Hyruken said:
Er hang on....You just said
"most of the games they have are clones of experiences on the wii. i doubt too many people will give up their wiis for a 360 "
But then said
"sony should do okay-ish with move."
That seems a bit hypocritical to me. How can you say one will do bad as it is a clone of the Wii (Kinect) but the other do well? (Move). In terms of clones isn't having a motion control controller and navigation controller a copy of a Wii remote and Nunchuck? I mean is that experience not the same as on the Wii then?
Kinect is different from the Wii remote system because you don't need a remote! That is a big difference, that is something neither Nintendo or Sony can offer. That does not mean it will sell loads it just means that you can't say the experience is the same on Wii as it is with Kinect as that is just wrong.
In terms of sales i think the obvious new arcade slim and it's price cut will be what wins holiday for 360. People seem to be ignoring that in some regions PS3 is already down year over year. To drive sales it is going to need more then just GT5. GT5 will help shift a few consoles but not millions...The majority of GT fans will already own a PS3 now. If Sony can make a big ish price cut then it will do well. If not then it will get crushed this holiday. People will not pay £300 for a PS3 then £100 to get the Move components. That is just crazy thinking.
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i'm not really sure what you are even confused on so let me be more specific.
move and kinect both have wii rip off experiences - dancing games, sports complilations, exercise games. none of those games seem to do anything "new" that will cause these devices to sell to the crowd that are buying wiis, imo.
move supports some core games like lbp, echochrome 2, socom, ect. kinect does not. i suspect that move will sell more than kinect to the existing owners. killzone fans may want move for killzone 3. halo fans will want kinect for what.. kinectiamals? doubtful.
see, i stated that neither of these new devices will drive hardware sales. its just that in the case of my ps3 statement you decided to crop what i wrote to change the meaning of the statement.
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Maybe they would want it for games like Fable 3, Forza 4?
Your statment is basically implying Move is more appealing to the wider audience. I disagree. There will be all types of people interested in Kinect. Those who want to play games like Fable 3,Star Wars etc. There will be those who want to keep fit with the fitness game, those who like dance games like the dance game. And then there will be those who like Kinect for it's other features such as voice activated television control/video conferencing. Some will be interested in it for the ESPN sports deal. Lot's of people watch sports right? etc etc
You can't pigeon hole Kinect into one bracket of people....
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You don't need Kinect for ESPN, just xbox live.
